Rear Guide OD for IHP35 ??

SUFFIX · Post by **SUFFIX** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:18 pm

airgun_novice wrote:
Dear Suffix,

Agreed that 'phoren' springs are usually better, but then would it not be cheaper and better if similar springs which are duplicated in India are used by guys in India instead ? Just give an impetus to local economy in these days of stagflagnation. Not to hijack this thread, but I am seriously thinking of going for Kolkatta-based SDB as my second (or rather third) air rifle, rather than ordering one from Pyramid Air. What say ? Awaiting my wife to get in real great mood so could "con"vince her.

Is there any springs as such that duplicated in India? Are they good enough to challenge a foreign made one?
I shall be glad if you can give me a lead!

-Suffix

fantumfan2003 · Post by **fantumfan2003** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:57 pm

airgun_novice

Short Explanation : No, It cannot be done.

Long Explanation : Why ? There are many properties to a spring. The most important being the steel and other metals/additives used. For example the best springs made for air rifles use the same steel as that used in making springs for formula 1 cars.

Secondly, Very, Very few people in this country would have knowledge on making good springs for air rifles in our country. Even fewer will waste their time, money and resources on catering to a tiny specialised market as ours.

This does not include some fraudsters who will rip and fleece genuine shooting enthusiasts of their money by selling counterfeit and substandard products claiming to be original international brands. The Indian mentality of accepting sub standard duplicate items encourages such dubious parties and individuals.

So if you want a good spring for an air rifle, save the trouble, spend a few bucks and look to the west for getting the springs.....

M.

airgun_novice wrote: Agreed that 'phoren' springs are usually better, but then would it not be cheaper and better if similar springs which are duplicated in India are used by guys in India instead ? Just give an impetus to local economy in these days of stagflagnation. Not to hijack this thread, but I am seriously thinking of going for Kolkatta-based SDB as my second (or rather third) air rifle, rather than ordering one from Pyramid Air. What say ? Awaiting my wife to get in real great mood so could "con"vince her.

-- Fri Mar 25, 2011 0:06 --

Suffix,

Appreciate your effort to help your Indian friend.

Sitting in the US, you post here on his behalf, getting the OD of a spring guide of an Indian made air rifle and are willing to send him a foreign made spring for the IHP by consulting members of IFG.

Why don't you invite your friend here at IFG so he can benefit directly from the knowledge here....
Here in India we are not a large community, IFG is a very open and welcoming forum which welcomes participation from all shooting enthusiasts. Please request him to join IFG.

M.

SUFFIX wrote:
Is there any springs as such that duplicated in India? Are they good enough to challenge a foreign made one?
I shall be glad if you can give me a lead!

-Suffix

airgun_novice · Post by **airgun_novice** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:31 am

fantumfan2003 wrote:airgun_novice
Short Explanation : No, It cannot be done.
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So if you want a good spring for an air rifle, save the trouble, spend a few bucks and look to the west for getting the springs.....
M.

Thank you Fantumfan2003 - I stand corrected.

Suffix, I was thinking along lines of Target-tune etc. - but reconsidering now.

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:21 am

Springs can be duplicated - there is no reason why it cannot be done the only challenge here is finding the right person to do it.
All you have to do is take a sample spring and based on that it will be done.

Having said that you will have to spend a considerable time and money "experimenting and searching" for the right person to do it. so in short you are better off picking it up from a reliable source.

Cherokee and Gsmith are two springs made locally that are as of now better than any other available makes.
/S/

fantumfan2003 · Post by **fantumfan2003** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:32 pm

You make it sound so easy.......

Oh yes they can be duplicated and I will show you (over the weekend) how a duplicate, third class, Indian made, spring fairs in our favourite IHP35. This was made and sold by none other than the fraudster Tirtha who continues to swindle people thu his site target tune.

If making good quality springs were so easy, there would be dozens of companies in India giving the westerners a run for their money.

M.

snIPer wrote:Springs can be duplicated - there is no reason why it cannot be done the only challenge here is finding the right person to do it.
All you have to do is take a sample spring and based on that it will be done.

Having said that you will have to spend a considerable time and money "experimenting and searching" for the right person to do it. so in short you are better off picking it up from a reliable source.

Cherokee and Gsmith are two springs made locally that are as of now better than any other available makes.
/S/

-- Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:33 --

Avoid this fraudster like the plague....

M.

airgun_novice wrote:Thank you Fantumfan2003 - I stand corrected. Suffix, I was thinking along lines of Target-tune etc. - but reconsidering now.

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:45 pm

True Manish it is not easy but at the same time not impossible either.

like i said earlier (you will have to spend a considerable time and money "experimenting and searching" for the right person to do it. so in short you are better off picking it up from a reliable source.)

Please do post results of the spring you talked about - i wanted to see how they fared.

Thanks
/S/

fantumfan2003 · Post by **fantumfan2003** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:26 pm

Sniper.......

I know this is :deadhorse:

You probably missed.....

"Long Explanation : Why ? There are many properties to a spring. The most important being the steel and other metals/additives used. For example the best springs made for air rifles use the same steel as that used in making springs for formula 1 cars.

Secondly, Very, Very few people in this country would have knowledge on making good springs for air rifles in our country. Even fewer will waste their time, money and resources on catering to a tiny specialised market as ours. "

Indian made Duplicate Jim Maccari E3650 spring photo will be uploaded by Monday.....

Cheers

M.

snIPer wrote:True Manish it is not easy but at the same time not impossible either.

like i said earlier (you will have to spend a considerable time and money "experimenting and searching" for the right person to do it. so in short you are better off picking it up from a reliable source.)

Please do post results of the spring you talked about - i wanted to see how they fared.

Thanks
/S/

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:54 pm

you got that right mate.
it is
:deadhorse:

indeed

/S/

fantumfan2003 · Post by **fantumfan2003** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:42 am

Duplicate Jim Maccari Spring. See the amount of cant and buckling it sustained in an IHP35. Speaks volumes on Indian fraudsters.

M.

englishtown · Post by **englishtown** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:05 pm

i hv got an ihp national 25 mod. air gun . i hv recently bought a scope from a fellow ifgian . where can i get it installed ?? in Punjab.

i need help of a gun smith near me. cn sm one tell me about a good gun smith near Ludhiana, or Patiala.

i live near Dist. Sangrur. there is no gun smith in my area. kindly help.

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