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How`s this lethal one , buddies?

thats not a katar lol

He Debjeet

A warm welcome to the sharp section of IFG and great to have another blade lover among us. The image that you've posted is not that of a Katar. A Katar is a punch dagger of pure indian origin Unlike indo persian blades like pesh kabz, churra, khajar etc.

Your image is a probably a letter opener modeled after US Cavalry Sabre probably a 1860 model.

Regards
Moin.

Thanks Moin..someone told me its a nihang katar.

Moin, although you have posted a few wonderful threads on blades, maybe it is time to put up some "identifiers" for blades? Maybe link to a site where info on blade shapes can be seen? I, for one, wouldn't recognise a "pesh kabz" from a "Sabre, Cavalry Issue, Officers Light" even if both danced the hornpipe right now!

essdee1972 wrote:Moin, although you have posted a few wonderful threads on blades, maybe it is time to put up some "identifiers" for blades? Maybe link to a site where info on blade shapes can be seen? I, for one, wouldn't recognise a "pesh kabz" from a "Sabre, Cavalry Issue, Officers Light" even if both danced the hornpipe right now!

Moin - we are waitng
Briha

Brother there is no such thing as nihang katar ...this is a short cavalry sword look alike ..and i seen these designs ..they good for show pieces hanging on the wall.

debjeetganguly wrote:Thanks Moin..someone told me its a nihang katar.

After seeing the pics I remember the handmade Small tegha I bought from Patiala I will try to find it in collection then will post pics in few days.

Moin. wrote: Hey Debjeet

A warm welcome to the sharp section of IFG and great to have another blade lover among us. The image that you've posted is not that of a Katar. A Katar is a punch dagger of pure indian origin Unlike indo persian blades like pesh kabz, churra, khajar etc.
Your image is a probably a letter opener modeled after US Cavalry Sabre probably a 1860 model.
Regards
Moin.

Moin,
Is this a Katar of Indian origin?

Briha

Sure Dada.. your wish is my command Will try and gather some detailed info .


Brihasir... yes sir very much it is.

Regards
Moin.

Now I know that the things in the museums which looks like knuckle dusters on steroids are Katars! Isn't the name a bit misleading? Because the action is not kaatna but bhokna, as in chaaku bhok diya. Nothing to do with dogs, who bhauk!

Dada this web page shows images for a lot of short bladed indo persian weapons like kard, choora, khanjar, bicchwa ( from south india).. Missing are perhaps the famous armour piercing pesh kabz and the chilanum and katar

http://www.academia.edu/368253/Indo-Per ... Gene_Beall



This is what a pesh kabz looks like

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=6425

http://akaalarms.com/sold-curved-indian ... ref-10005/


This is what a Chilanum looks like

http://armsandantiques.com/16th-c-south ... gger-id701

http://www.millersantiquesguide.com/ite ... er-with-a/

http://www.caravanacollection.com/proje ... num-dagger



And a variation of the chilanum, the khanjarali

http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10977

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=4260

http://oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=2770



This is a kataar

http://www.ashokaarts.com/shop/silver-a ... outh-india

http://akaalarms.com/sold-early-south-i ... ref-10035/

Thanks for sharing Moin
Simply flummoxed at the vast variety in design, profile & ergonomics....
Creativity stretched beyond imagination....the inlays, etching etc. etc.
The metamorphosis of steel into blades is awesome & astounding....
Briha

Thank you, Brother!!

Hello Debjeet,

This image you have uploaded doesn't seem to be a katar. A katar is a weapon which is a push dagger characterised by its H-shaped horizontal hand grip which results in the blade sitting above the user's knuckles. Unique to South Asia, it is the most famous and characteristic of Indian daggers.

Some Ceremonial Katar are also used in worship.

Best Regards
Harshit