Hissatsu
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:46 pm
Awsome. Go for it. Deadly cutting power.
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Bruno
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Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:06 pm
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:24 pm
better go for Jambiya, it may be possible to find on net modern one used by Jordan army
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/tac ... bat-blade/
http://www.s-staniforth.co.uk/Item.php?id=126
http://www.s-staniforth.co.uk/Item.php?id=97
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/tac ... bat-blade/
http://www.s-staniforth.co.uk/Item.php?id=126
http://www.s-staniforth.co.uk/Item.php?id=97
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:48 pm
There is no direct comparison between the two but still I think that the Fallkniven F1 is a better general purpose knife.
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:52 pm
Columbia River Knife and Tool is well known for designing and producing great knives. If it has their name on it, it should be a quality item even if it is made in China.
The Hisshou
http://www.crkt.com/Hisshou-Fixed-Blade-KydexSheath
James Williams himself demonstrates its use in a video on the above page.
He calls it a Hisshou. The blade that he wields seems to be longer than the one on the AG Russel page.
They also show the same blade (Hissatsu) as offered by AG Russel on this page:
http://www.crkt.com/cgi-bin/crkt.pl?pgm ... _id=498240
A video on this page talks about James Willimas philosophy in designing the two knives. The Hissatsuu folder looks cool too.
So is the Hissatsu a baby Hisshou?
The Hisshou
http://www.crkt.com/Hisshou-Fixed-Blade-KydexSheath
James Williams himself demonstrates its use in a video on the above page.
He calls it a Hisshou. The blade that he wields seems to be longer than the one on the AG Russel page.
They also show the same blade (Hissatsu) as offered by AG Russel on this page:
http://www.crkt.com/cgi-bin/crkt.pl?pgm ... _id=498240
A video on this page talks about James Willimas philosophy in designing the two knives. The Hissatsuu folder looks cool too.
So is the Hissatsu a baby Hisshou?
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:59 pm
I actually do not getting why some one may want such knife, Tip?? tanto better, handle ?? Jambia much better plus scull crasher
to use such knife some serious specific skills may required.
if you need good tactical knife in usd 100 price range then SOG Team Leader is as good as it gets
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to use such knife some serious specific skills may required.
if you need good tactical knife in usd 100 price range then SOG Team Leader is as good as it gets
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30% more toughness than S30V and 80% better edge holding and 20% better rust resistence than 440C? OK I’m interested. This is the first knife I’ve seen use this 20CV CPM steel and from all indications and preliminary reports, it should be a good performer. High carbide content, lots of vanadium, a chromium-rich matrix (excellent rust resistance), and outstanding sharpness set the 20CV steel SOG Team Leader apart from other blades (it was also offered in AUS8 steel as well). Of course that wouldn’t mean much if the knife sucked. But suck it doesn’t and in fact its an impressive stainless stell tactical fixed blade offering. Since it weighs in at just 6.8 oz (9.4 oz with sheath) it would make an ideal LBE knife as well (BlackWater MOLLE adaption shown). Handling the Team Leader for me was key in liking it: its balance and feel are superb. The handling characteristics inspire confidence and it would serve in excellent fashion in the tactical or camp knife POU. The DuraTech 20CV willow leaf blade is perfectly sized for such applications and features a full flat grind. It arrives razor sharp unlike some other SOG fixed blades and has decent belly for the slicing chore (it turned out to be an excellent food prep knife).
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:24 pm
Subal, would the Jambiya be available for sale to civilians. Under which brand does it sell. The SOG team leader is quite nice. Looks indestructible. Only flaw I see is its very understated in its looks. More like a kitchen knife. That in some cases may be be good or bad. That's my personal opinion. Also why are they selling such a high tech knife with a leather sheath?? Should it not be one of those modern tactical type of sheaths that fit your webbing, belt or back pack in a million ways? Also some how the handle looks like it would be quite slippery. Never held one but that's what I make out from the pictures. This is just a healthy knife debate. 
-- Sat Nov 13, 2010 16:31 --
From my sources the Team Leader seems to be discontinued?? Please shed some light on that. Also it retails at $275.95 for the 'Duratech' 20CV stainless blade.
-- Sat Nov 13, 2010 16:31 --
From my sources the Team Leader seems to be discontinued?? Please shed some light on that. Also it retails at $275.95 for the 'Duratech' 20CV stainless blade.
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:35 pm
yes, it may look a bit like kitchen knife, but that is a trend in how modern tactical knives look like nowadays, Duratech 20CV one of the most advanced knife steel, but with RC60 hardness it can be too brittle. so pure fighter knife not the knife which you will use to open cans same time.
Most knife making companies provide huge discounts to dealers and keep price tag high on web site to help dealers to sale. I think it may possible to find 20CV for about $180
SOG as most others started to make knives in China so prices on many models down.
Same knife in AUS 8 for 80 great deal too.
Jambia made in UK by THE SMITHFIELD - great quality knife, should be available to any one
http://www.s-staniforth.co.uk/Item.php?id=97
Most knife making companies provide huge discounts to dealers and keep price tag high on web site to help dealers to sale. I think it may possible to find 20CV for about $180
SOG as most others started to make knives in China so prices on many models down.
Same knife in AUS 8 for 80 great deal too.
Jambia made in UK by THE SMITHFIELD - great quality knife, should be available to any one
http://www.s-staniforth.co.uk/Item.php?id=97
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:53 pm
The 'jamaiyo' is the adaptation of the Jambiya that is still used, after maybe even a 1000 years, in parts of Kathiawar and Kutch. There is a historical reason for this. Most of the people in these areas migrated from West Asia via Sindh. Including Rajputs, Mers, Kathis etc. The Jambiyo is to Kathiwar just as the Katar is to the Rajputs of North Western India.
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:55 pm
Real life, on the ground reports from people using the Hissatsu -stick 80kg pigs etc-One damned fine , dependable knife. NOt decidedly for carpet cutting, but, extremely strong and does the job its supposed to do WELL.
NO back yard SF or mall ninja natak, Just a GOOD carry knife.
Not sure about the hissou or hissatsu variation.Me thinks its a stabbing, 21st century variant of the wazakashi?
will make a decent small of the back carry knife in the field.If skinning/boning is to be done, I would prefer a pair of 6 inch F Dick knives , carried separately, in the backpack.
NO back yard SF or mall ninja natak, Just a GOOD carry knife.
Not sure about the hissou or hissatsu variation.Me thinks its a stabbing, 21st century variant of the wazakashi?
will make a decent small of the back carry knife in the field.If skinning/boning is to be done, I would prefer a pair of 6 inch F Dick knives , carried separately, in the backpack.
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:56 pm
if some one like traditional like design, then SOG Tech Bowie would be good choice, quite long and thick blade Blade Length 6.4" x .24" and not so heavy for such size knife
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:19 pm
[quote="Subal das"]
to use such knife some serious specific skills may required.
[quote]
You know all the knives mentioned here? I'd like to own every one of them
I believe , right tool for the right job Subal-a Multi tool for the fiddly stuff,a Main blade, a back up and skinning /boning knives in the back pack.Cutting a deer or a sambar or a scrub buff miles from civilization is not the time to look for a stone to strop a blade, or worse.
I have no need for a skull crusher, I dont want to spring for a FallknivenH1- have a Scagel 'look alike' in the forge
and am learning about damascus-hands on.
to use such knife some serious specific skills may required.
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You know all the knives mentioned here? I'd like to own every one of them
I believe , right tool for the right job Subal-a Multi tool for the fiddly stuff,a Main blade, a back up and skinning /boning knives in the back pack.Cutting a deer or a sambar or a scrub buff miles from civilization is not the time to look for a stone to strop a blade, or worse.
I have no need for a skull crusher, I dont want to spring for a FallknivenH1- have a Scagel 'look alike' in the forge
and am learning about damascus-hands on.Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:31 pm
personally I carry karambit and cannot imagine to trade it on any other knife, but honestly if I would consider to carry some other big boy EDC that will be
Zero Tolerance ZT0350 S30V
Zero Tolerance ZT0350 S30V
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:08 am
Actually I did not want to write this earlier afraid that my comment would be misjudged. I am familiar with this family and to me even in the first look it appears to be a perfect knife for a silent assassin.eljefe wrote:Me thinks its a stabbing, 21st century variant of the wazakashi?
-- Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:19 am --
Do post a picture of the Scagel once its ready along with the complete "story". Would be nice to see it.
Eljefe what does your learning on damascus involve? I am sure you will not keep it from us
Subal: Zero Tolerance is one of the brands that I like over all others. Most of these knives are just great.
Katana: this is correct the jamiya or jamaiyo is a familiar term in the regions you have mentioned.
Re: Hissatsu
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:40 am
You know, we guys in IFG are one lucky lot
I really do appreciate the varied viewpoints and advice and pros and cons put up here.
I can walk into a shop and pick up the stuff, but still preferv to run it by you guys, and let me tell you, I value your advice.Thanks guys!
Scagel will take some time ,and i will post .
Damascus-been intrigued about the technique since I first read about in -back in 7-8 standardng a 20lb hammer.- and all i can say is steel selection-was easier in the 13th C, too much choice now.
Daily intake of brufen-must-its 'different' to wear a leather apron and asbestos gloves and swing a 20lb hammer-the bloke at the other end has no choice but to trust you!
It all started after I discovered mosaic damascus-still sends shivers of delight down my back...
I really do appreciate the varied viewpoints and advice and pros and cons put up here.
I can walk into a shop and pick up the stuff, but still preferv to run it by you guys, and let me tell you, I value your advice.Thanks guys!
Scagel will take some time ,and i will post .
Damascus-been intrigued about the technique since I first read about in -back in 7-8 standardng a 20lb hammer.- and all i can say is steel selection-was easier in the 13th C, too much choice now.
Daily intake of brufen-must-its 'different' to wear a leather apron and asbestos gloves and swing a 20lb hammer-the bloke at the other end has no choice but to trust you!
It all started after I discovered mosaic damascus-still sends shivers of delight down my back...