Restoration of a knife
- varunik
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Restoration of a knife
I have this knife
it's a scouts and guides camp knife.
it has leather sheath
It has got some rust
It has scratches too
Please tell me how can I restore it?
And also I need to sharpen its blade
This knife has been with me for last 10 years.. Since I was 9 years old.
It's my first knife, and its very dear to me..
i came to IFG looking for an airgun But now I can restore my knife as well.
Please tell me, how can I restore this knife well within in rs.500/-
it's a scouts and guides camp knife.
it has leather sheath
It has got some rust
It has scratches too
Please tell me how can I restore it?
And also I need to sharpen its blade
This knife has been with me for last 10 years.. Since I was 9 years old.
It's my first knife, and its very dear to me..
i came to IFG looking for an airgun But now I can restore my knife as well.
Please tell me, how can I restore this knife well within in rs.500/-
So many times, it happens too fast
You trade your passion for glory
Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past
You must fight just to keep them alive
It's the eye of the tiger
It's the thrill of the fight
Risin' up to the challenge
Of our rival
And the last known survivor
Stalks his prey in the night
And he's watching us all with the
Eye of the tiger
You trade your passion for glory
Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past
You must fight just to keep them alive
It's the eye of the tiger
It's the thrill of the fight
Risin' up to the challenge
Of our rival
And the last known survivor
Stalks his prey in the night
And he's watching us all with the
Eye of the tiger
- Mark
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Re: Restoration of a knife
Good day,
Your knife still looks to be in quite decent condition, so you will have a couple of choices as to how good of a condition you wish to ultimately make it. Additionally, the materials are not that costly but it will take a small commitment in time.
In regards to how much of a restoration you wish to do, I will give you my observations and suggestion- If you look at the edge of your knife, you can see how the edge has turned over a little bit? This tells us the knife is of a softer and not harder metal. I do not see this as a bad thing, as it does make a knife much easier to sharpen, especially out in the field when it is being used. But it also makes it scratch much easier. So if you give this knife a fine polish it will not stay fine for long!
What I would do is simply clean the blade and leave the larger scratches. I will describe how to do that, and and when you have done that if you wish to try polishing your knife I can then tell you how to go about that.
At any rate, for your knife what you need to begin with is called "steel wool" here in the states. It looks like this:
As you can see, it comes in a few different grades. They are either marked "coarse, medium, fine" or they will have a numbering system such as this cut and paste:
# "0000" = Super Fine
# "000" = Extra Fine
# "00" = Very Fine
# "0" = Fine
# "1" = Medium
# "2" = Medium Course
# "3" = Course
Get the superfine grade and a fine or medium. Use the medium to remove all of your rust spots, then the superfine grade with some light machine oil and just keep rubbing it until you are happy with the polish.
Here are a couple of suggestions- Before you start, tape the handle of your knife to prevent it from getting scratches. Use masking tape or electrical tape as they do not leave a residue and both remove easily.
Only rub the blade lengthwise, if you rub at any other angle it will be noticeable and sometimes you have a hell of a time getting those scratches out!
Start rubbing with the coarsest steel wool you have, and use that to remove ALL of the rust. The finer grades are ONLY to polish the blade AFTER you have removed ALL the blemishes.
Do not neglect the sheath. If the sheath is neglected the oils in it eventually dry out and the leather cracks. When this happens even though you can oil the leather the cracks will remain and they cannot get smaller, only bigger. Most any sort of shoe oil/leather preservative will work and my suggestion is to take the sheath to a leather shop, explain that it is for your first knife that you wish to keep in good condition so you can gift it to one of your children at some point in the future, and see about getting a small amount of something from them.
NOW- if it is difficult for you to do that, here is a crazy thing that I have done in the past and it can work quite well too- If you use shaving cream in an aerosol can, look at the ingredients and see if "lanolin" is one of the main ones. If it is, you can coat your sheath with shaving cream and wrap it in plastic or wax paper overnight, then polish with a cloth or paper towel. It will not only clean the leather but preserve it. It sounds crazy but it works! When my son was playing baseball, I read this as a method to "break in" baseball gloves and it worked quite well. I have since used it on occasion to clean old and dirty knife sheaths where I first rub it into the sheath then wipe with a paper towel to get the dirt off, then another coat and let sit over night in plastic. The only downside is there is a perfume/fragrance in the shave cream so they smell like they are going out to the movies for a while.
Anyway, hope that helps. If after you have polished it with steel wool you wish to make look better, post up some new pictures and we can move forward from there.
Regards,
Mark
Your knife still looks to be in quite decent condition, so you will have a couple of choices as to how good of a condition you wish to ultimately make it. Additionally, the materials are not that costly but it will take a small commitment in time.
In regards to how much of a restoration you wish to do, I will give you my observations and suggestion- If you look at the edge of your knife, you can see how the edge has turned over a little bit? This tells us the knife is of a softer and not harder metal. I do not see this as a bad thing, as it does make a knife much easier to sharpen, especially out in the field when it is being used. But it also makes it scratch much easier. So if you give this knife a fine polish it will not stay fine for long!
What I would do is simply clean the blade and leave the larger scratches. I will describe how to do that, and and when you have done that if you wish to try polishing your knife I can then tell you how to go about that.
At any rate, for your knife what you need to begin with is called "steel wool" here in the states. It looks like this:
As you can see, it comes in a few different grades. They are either marked "coarse, medium, fine" or they will have a numbering system such as this cut and paste:
# "0000" = Super Fine
# "000" = Extra Fine
# "00" = Very Fine
# "0" = Fine
# "1" = Medium
# "2" = Medium Course
# "3" = Course
Get the superfine grade and a fine or medium. Use the medium to remove all of your rust spots, then the superfine grade with some light machine oil and just keep rubbing it until you are happy with the polish.
Here are a couple of suggestions- Before you start, tape the handle of your knife to prevent it from getting scratches. Use masking tape or electrical tape as they do not leave a residue and both remove easily.
Only rub the blade lengthwise, if you rub at any other angle it will be noticeable and sometimes you have a hell of a time getting those scratches out!
Start rubbing with the coarsest steel wool you have, and use that to remove ALL of the rust. The finer grades are ONLY to polish the blade AFTER you have removed ALL the blemishes.
Do not neglect the sheath. If the sheath is neglected the oils in it eventually dry out and the leather cracks. When this happens even though you can oil the leather the cracks will remain and they cannot get smaller, only bigger. Most any sort of shoe oil/leather preservative will work and my suggestion is to take the sheath to a leather shop, explain that it is for your first knife that you wish to keep in good condition so you can gift it to one of your children at some point in the future, and see about getting a small amount of something from them.
NOW- if it is difficult for you to do that, here is a crazy thing that I have done in the past and it can work quite well too- If you use shaving cream in an aerosol can, look at the ingredients and see if "lanolin" is one of the main ones. If it is, you can coat your sheath with shaving cream and wrap it in plastic or wax paper overnight, then polish with a cloth or paper towel. It will not only clean the leather but preserve it. It sounds crazy but it works! When my son was playing baseball, I read this as a method to "break in" baseball gloves and it worked quite well. I have since used it on occasion to clean old and dirty knife sheaths where I first rub it into the sheath then wipe with a paper towel to get the dirt off, then another coat and let sit over night in plastic. The only downside is there is a perfume/fragrance in the shave cream so they smell like they are going out to the movies for a while.
Anyway, hope that helps. If after you have polished it with steel wool you wish to make look better, post up some new pictures and we can move forward from there.
Regards,
Mark
"What if he had no knife? In that case he would not be a good bushman so there is no need to consider the possibility." H.A. Lindsay, 1947
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Re: Restoration of a knife
One more item is to please be aware that when you oil the sheath you will probably have the gold shield eventually lift off the leather. You can try preventing this from happening by not coating the shield with the leather conditioner but just work close to it with a cotton swab. Personally, I would go over the entire sheath and just resign myself that the gold shield will probably come off someday.
"What if he had no knife? In that case he would not be a good bushman so there is no need to consider the possibility." H.A. Lindsay, 1947
- essdee1972
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Re: Restoration of a knife
Varunik, just to "Indianise" what Mark said on the sheath - leather conditioners are available in Bata stores, about 450-500 bucks for a bottle, or in some higher-end stores (Metro types) and Reliance Footprint stores under Wolla brand (being German, costs about twice as much as the Bata stuff). Use tiny amounts, "instructions on the back".
As for the gold "Scout" logo, it seems to be gold paint applied after engraving - you get engraving tools at stationery stores (try the small, "niche" kind of stores), craft stores, and Staples outlets. About 50-60 bucks for a set of 4 or 5. You can use the thicker ones to (carefully) deepen the engraving once the gold paint wears off (do it when the leather is slightly wet from conditioner), and use a gold leafing pen (Rustoleum brand, available in Home Town outlets, about 450 bucks) or gold coloured glitter pens, available at stationers, about 10 or 20 bucks. There are ways of darkening (staining) the leather permanently, but have never done it myself (try ehow.com!).
Will exceed your budget a bit, but you can skip the Rustoleum pen, and the conditioner is good for a pair of shoes for more than a year!
You might have to search a bit for steel wool, might have to get it from ebay.com or something (I was fortunate to catch a NRI just before his annual visit home )
By the way do BSG still give knives like that? Currently you don't get uniforms, even - had to buy my son's uniform!!
Happy DIY-ing!!
EssDee
As for the gold "Scout" logo, it seems to be gold paint applied after engraving - you get engraving tools at stationery stores (try the small, "niche" kind of stores), craft stores, and Staples outlets. About 50-60 bucks for a set of 4 or 5. You can use the thicker ones to (carefully) deepen the engraving once the gold paint wears off (do it when the leather is slightly wet from conditioner), and use a gold leafing pen (Rustoleum brand, available in Home Town outlets, about 450 bucks) or gold coloured glitter pens, available at stationers, about 10 or 20 bucks. There are ways of darkening (staining) the leather permanently, but have never done it myself (try ehow.com!).
Will exceed your budget a bit, but you can skip the Rustoleum pen, and the conditioner is good for a pair of shoes for more than a year!
You might have to search a bit for steel wool, might have to get it from ebay.com or something (I was fortunate to catch a NRI just before his annual visit home )
By the way do BSG still give knives like that? Currently you don't get uniforms, even - had to buy my son's uniform!!
Happy DIY-ing!!
EssDee
Cheers!
EssDee
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- marthandan
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Re: Restoration of a knife
varun...u can use wet 'n' dry emery sheet for cleaning up the blade. starting with 180 ~ 200, you can go upto 800
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Re: Restoration of a knife
Hi Varunik…you are lucky that your knife is still in a decent shape. I had a similar one and it got so badly rusted in the leather sheath that I had to chuck it.
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Re: Restoration of a knife
please view this thread.. might help you..
http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17300
http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17300