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Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:48 am
by Vikram
Check the following link for some very interesting photographs from the Raj days.


http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve ... 4371089111

An example

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Thanks to Mark for bringing this to our notice.

Best-
Vikram

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:06 am
by herb
Thanks Vikram for the link.

We should all be grateful to the digital age as these pictures are now preserved for ever for every one to see and enjoy instead of being stored in someones personal album in some corner of the world and would surely have been lost for ever, once its passed into the hands of someone who has no passion for hunting or its history.

Herb

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:27 am
by Yaj
herb wrote:Thanks Vikram for the link.

We should all be grateful to the digital age as these pictures are now preserved for ever for every one to see and enjoy instead of being stored in someones personal album in some corner of the world and would surely have been lost for ever, once its passed into the hands of someone who has no passion for hunting or its history.

Herb
I agree Herb.I know of cases where the present generation dont care about these relics and have literally tossed large collections of documents,photos and sketches on to the bonfire.A crying shame!
Regards,
Yaj.

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:02 am
by timmy
In the picture entitled: "Borneo, 1925 - Captain George L. Anderson with a Javan Rhinoceros in Sandakan region of Sarawak."

The hunter has an 1895 Winchester lever action. I also like that very large bore muzzleloader in another picture.

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:14 pm
by prashantsingh
So many men to kill ONE tiger. Doesn't that speak volumes about the majestic king of the Indian jungle......rather than the puny hunter and his army of men.

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:03 am
by Vassili Zaitsev
Hi Guys,
Sorry to write this post. I am an extensive gun lover and a wildlife amateur enthusiastic.
These pictures are old and vintage and very precious no doubt but these pictures are very sad indeed. These are the animals which are now extinct or going to be in very near future.
Did we notice the butchered head of the rhino? Or the skinning of the tiger?
No wonder why we are going to lose these animals very soon and still it is happening every day.
May be in future we have to see them in photos or in videos.
I am a fan of Jim Corbet and his lessons to us are valuable and we should never forget it.
He always tried his best to rehabilate the animal or before killing it makes sure. He had a passion for the animals and Indian forests and the people around the forest.
Let’s follow them and save the jungle and its animals.

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:14 am
by kanwar76
Vassili Zaitsev wrote:Hi Guys,
Sorry to write this post. I am an extensive gun lover and a wildlife amateur enthusiastic.
These pictures are old and vintage and very precious no doubt but these pictures are very sad indeed. These are the animals which are now extinct or going to be in very near future.
Did we notice the butchered head of the rhino? Or the skinning of the tiger?
No wonder why we are going to lose these animals very soon and still it is happening every day.
May be in future we have to see them in photos or in videos.
I am a fan of Jim Corbet and his lessons to us are valuable and we should never forget it.
He always tried his best to rehabilate the animal or before killing it makes sure. He had a passion for the animals and Indian forests and the people around the forest.
Let’s follow them and save the jungle and its animals.
I respect your emotions but can you please tell us which animal Jim rehabilate?

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:36 am
by Vikram
Prashant,

I am completely with you. I have great respect for the hunter who goes alone on foot after dangerous game. You got an army/battery of rifles to back you up,I would still say go for it if it's legal,sustainable and aids conservation, but don't call it dangerous game hunting.The only danger is to the quarry.

Dear Vasili,

I agree with you as far as indiscriminate slaughter,market hunting/poaching,habitat destruction etc, are involved.All abhorrent practices and should be punished. Legal,sustainable and scientific hunting aids conservation greatly and the benefits are not limited to the game species alone.Habitat preservation and thriving of all the dependent creatures are just two of the benefits.

I understand that hunting is an emotional issue for many. I love animals a lot and conservation and their welfare is a priority for me.If legalised and sustainable hunting helps it,why not?There are great many examples to that fact.

Best-
Vikram

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:18 am
by shooter
I am a fan of Jim Corbet and his lessons to us are valuable and we should never forget it.
He always tried his best to rehabilate the animal or before killing it makes sure.

I am an even bigger fan of carpit sahib.

however one has to also remember that he too shot many tigers for his hobby; arranged quite a few hunts for the royalty, and just before he resorted to conservation, had one last season which was his biggest bag ever, in which he resorted to all the tricks.


i am NOT taking anything away from the man. he was one of the first people to preach conservation and also motivation to set up parks.

but my greatest respect for him is as a naturalist and a hunter, not necessarily in that order.

please dont judge yesterdays actions by todays standards. please dont !! It never works.

early man used flint tied to a spear to hunt mammoth and sabre tooth. should i say they were the greatest hunters and not us.

native americans/ tribals/ aborigins are the biggest conservationists much more than any of us in ifg.

we are all lazy ; we use cars, calculaters, fans, machines, computers. people 200 yrs ago were so hard working.

does that sound right or dumb? you tell me.

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:06 am
by Vassili Zaitsev
Guys,

I am sorry if i was too harsh yesterday. I do understand that was a sudden outbrust of emotions.
What i mean to say as i read again and again the books of Jim Corbett is his love for his forest and the Wild animals.

He made sure everytime before killing an animal that it is really causing a problem to teh civilization.
I wish we could make some good documentory of movies on his adventures.

All of you sound concern about the animals and the preservations.

Thanks.

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:10 am
by kanwar76
Vassili Zaitsev wrote: He made sure everytime before killing an animal that it is really causing a problem to teh civilization.
Why he killed bachelor of powalgarh?

-Inder

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:25 pm
by hvj1
To all the fallen beauties, dead and gone
Who fell afore they could see another dawn
My friend, Tell me then?
When I walk the dim forest trails,
will I find them again?
With a heavy heart , I will trudge back then
to admire them in sepia, in my modern den.


Am I so noble,
to alone deserve
the morning sun, the crystal dew
the rosy sunsets, the mystery nights
Gone forever the silent tread
The creeping shadow, the molten eyes,
The chilling roar, the anguished screams.
Alone among the sighing teaks,
An owl flutters, beckons and sweeps,
a mice squirming in its beak.
for thats all the romance left,
Slowly I turn back then,
to make do with the sepia, in my den.

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:14 am
by Vikram
Vasili,

Not to fret too much.You did not offend anyone.As long as we are civil to each other, we can have wonderful debates.Every individual is entitled to his opinions and free to express them as long as they are not offensive.Thank you for your inputs and please do not hold back if you wish to say something.Only,be prepared for the responses. :wink: :lol: In the end,we all are friends and share similar passions.

I love Jim Corbett as an individual,writer and as a conservationist.He is one of the first authors I read in English (rather late in life :oops: ).He hunted a lot for pot and sport.Organised a lot of beats for others.The conservationist in him did not emerge until he was well past middle-age. One could say that the days of plenty began to disappear.

All I would say is, please do not judge responsible sport hunting with one single act of taking a life (beautiful,cute,cuddly, friendly or not-all are anthropomorphisms).And conservation does not involve banning hunting alone.Habitat preservation,sustainable stewardship of numbers of animals etc, are the most important issues.

HVJ1,

That is a beautiful and touching poem.Any idea about the author? Thank you for sharing.

Best-
Vikram

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:56 am
by Sakobav
Its fair to be critical of his certain action but Atleast Jim Corbett realized and saw the writing on the wall and aired his concern.Unlike other bozos who kept on slaughtering these animals like that old Raja who was responsible for shooting the last cheetahs and another one who was suffering from arthritis and still liked to keep a meaningless tally..

hvj1 great poem

best

Re: Shikar Pictures from the Raj days

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:41 am
by hvj1
shukriya ngrewal