Indians For Guns

Hunting is the meanest of all actions practised by humans; the beauty of a gun is a reason enough to possess one.

"Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they're in the game." - Paul Rodriguez

RottLord";p="48992 wrote:"Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they're in the game.” - Paul Rodriguez

"Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they're in the game but I love giving surprises."

Kanwar Inderjeet Singh Chauhan

RottLord";p="48992 wrote: Hunting is the meanest of all actions practised by humans; the beauty of a gun is a reason enough to possess one.

"Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they're in the game." - Paul Rodriguez

And why is this relevant to the thread on airguns from Dubai?

While hunting may have been made illegal in India, it is very much a "sport" and one that is enjoyed by millions all over the world - in a responsible manner. You may not be aware of this but hunters are the single biggest $$ contributors to wildlife conservation efforts - not the armchair conservationists!

Since you wish to argue the merits/ demerits of this sport, I'm splitting these posts from this thread and creating a new one...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Man has been hunting for ages for food or just to protect themselves from wild animals. Even carnivorous animals hunt for food. Does that make them meanest and should they be banned also ?
There are still many people who like to hunt their own food instead of buying meat from grocery shops. Many a places its not called hunting season but called harvesting season. There are always two sides of coins. Just depends which side you are seeing.

Here are some benefits of hunting
1) Hunting licenses provide revenue which is used for wildlife conservation
2) Reducing Overpopulation and Property Damage
3) An excellent outdoor activity that brings people close to nature
etc etc..

Cheers
MSandhu

well I am sure even the anti-hunting brigade can agree that there are many things meaner than hunting that humans can do. I dont want to elaborate these things but for starters, think of the word "nithari".

In regards to whether hunting is "mean" in general,
depends on what one means by mean.

here are a few definition (adjective) that come to mind:

1. offensive, selfish, or unaccommodating; nasty; malicious: a mean remark; He gets mean when he doesn't get his way.
2. small-minded or ignoble: mean motives.
3. penurious, stingy, or miserly: a person who is mean about money.
4. inferior in grade, quality, or character: no mean reward.
5. low in status, rank, or dignity: mean servitors.
6. of little importance or consequence: mean little details.
7. unimposing or shabby: a mean abode.
8. small, humiliated, or ashamed: You should feel mean for being so stingy.
9. Informal. in poor physical condition.
10. troublesome or vicious; bad-tempered: a mean old horse.
11. Slang. skillful or impressive: He blows a mean trumpet.

everybody is entitled to ones opinion; you're entitled to yours.

Well to ask if it does any good for the animal population/environment/nature/wildlife, mundair just scratched the surface. Theres more to it than meets the eye.

Just for the sake of an arguement one could also argue that even fishing is meaner than hunting as its a very painful way for a fish to die. it suffers a lot.

As far as how its good for us, what it teaches us, moulds us,
I can safely say that many/ most of lifes lessons can be learned from hunting/ fishing.
Definitely more than football/hockey/badminton etc etc.

And dont forget, the concept of conservation was started by hunters. It is still alien to many 'anti-hunters'.

I have done an unofficial survey in rajasthan (where there a lot of pro hunting people).
Most/ Majority (read >90%) of people who admitted to buying (illegal) shitoosh shawls were not just 'anti-hunters' but vegeterians as well.

A lot of the forest preserved today (in india) had been originally preserved for hunting (by hunters).
Kenya was one of the first countries in Africa to ban hunting. The have one of the greatest % loss in animal numbers as compared to 'hunting countries'.
Is there a better way to preserve nature?
Maybe... someone has yet to figure it out. (practically- not on paper.)
Till then why dont we stick to what has been working for us.


But if ure talking about definition no 11 (see above), then welcome home brother!

RottLord";p="48992 wrote:Hunting is the meanest of all actions practised by humans; the beauty of a gun is a reason enough to possess one.

"Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they're in the game." - Paul Rodriguez

Are you a vegetarian?

If not, you are simply paying money to someone else to live out parts of your life for you.

No matter what religion a person is, a fundamental tenet is that all life deserves to be respected. To claim some wild animal is more deserving of spiritual respect than say, a chicken or a fish is a mistaken belief.

When die Herrenrasse is discussed people are quite rightly usually horrified, yet many are resistant to understanding this philosophy extends to all living things.

Look at the windscreen and grill of your car, and understand those bodies were also deserving of life, yet it does not cause most people to drive everywhere at 10 km/hr.

Life is a journey consisting of choices we make, and while some choices are better than others it does the soul a disservice to ignore that death is an inevitable part of life, and that in itself has important meaning too, extended to every living creature, not just the ones we arbitrarily decide are more deserving than another.

I agree with Mark...either you're with it or you're not.
If you can justify eating a Chicken Afghani or a Butter Chicken, you have no right to comment on whether Hunting is good or bad....AFAIK even the slaughtered chickens or for that matter goats/sheep in India go through a lot of suffering when they are slaughtered Halaal (No offence to my Muslim brethren).

Drink.....F***......Sleep; Simple Life. That's my motto in life, and if you can get "EAT" in there, you're in Heaven!

Enjoy!

Akshat

P.S. Please excuse if I'm too contrite or obnoxious, Mr. Old Monk seems to have taken over my keyboard!

Rottlord if you are a non vegetarian let me tell you that modern methods of poultry and livestock/dairy management are much more cruel to the animals concerned than hunting can ever be. Visit your local poultry or slaughterhouse if you want to see cruelty.
If I had a choice hunted meat or free range poultry/ meat would be the only meat I would consume. But until such options are legal/available I have to live with the cruelty since it would really be mean to deprive myself the pleasures of the flesh

If you are a vegetarian you have my heartfelt sympathy .
Try and find what is behind the glass of milk you take for granted too.See what happens to the male calves, the cows that have gone "dry", the conditions the cattle have to endure.
Regards,
Yaj.

Hunting is the meanest of all actions practised by humans; ................


...so u better get used to living with cockroaches in ur kitchen and washroom
killing them wud also be equally mean

I miss Mehul.

He'd have asked RottLord to do something that I can't possibly justify with my words. What I can say is RottLord, you are on the wrong website. You should go to PETA website. My definition of PETA is People Eating Tasty Animals.

HSharief";p="49045 wrote:<snip>
My definition of PETA is People Eating Tasty Animals.

Now now Sharief, just remember there is plenty of room for all Gods creatures....










.......... Right next to the beans and rice!

Gents ,

I am of the opinion that everybody has their opinions , good/bad/correct/incorrect , whatever.
This is after all not a hunting forum but a gun lovers forum which means that one can love the sport of shooting without being a "passionate" hunter as well.

On that note lets give the guy a break and i dont mean a break in the wrong place

Cheers Rohit.

HSharief";p="49045 wrote: My definition of PETA is People Eating Tasty Animals.

I am lovvving this discussion.
In a type of lateral thinking called '6-Thinking Hats', most comments that are coming out in this thread would be wearing a Red cap - an emotional one. It is best to view this in a non-judgemental way, and accept all inputs. These thought will materialize into a much more mature awakening.
All these days, I too hated hunting and hunters, considering them the b*****s of soceity, until I came across more than proof about what hunting really means. I am now no absorbed into a anti-hunting spree, but have decided to let things go its way, as there are good and bad sides to everything...
Keep the ball rolling guys

"...life is a dynamic interchange between man and his surroundings. Hunting is part of man's very nature, and is a universal and impassioned sport...it is the purest form of human happiness.
The essence of hunting or fishing involves a complete code of ethics of the most distinguished design. The sportsman who accepts the sporting code of ethics keeps his commandments in the greatest solitude with no witnesses or audience other than the sharp peaks of the mountain, the stern oak, and the passing animal..."
Jose Ortega y Gasset, Meditations on Hunting