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Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis Dunga

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:57 am
by Sakobav
This video is from West Virginia State archives -- looks like some place in Andhra or Chattisgarh where they were hunting ...may be it was posted earlier

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Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:51 am
by AgentDoubleS
Thanks, what a great share, ngrewal. I was reading Kenneth Anderson late into last night. This motion picture brings to life all that we visualise while reading him and Jim Corbett. Loved watching it and was left wanting for more.

Cheers,
SS

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:30 pm
by nevil
200 beaters elephants so many rifles and one tiger poor thing does not have a chance :(

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:22 pm
by fantumfan2003
Quite a big local army to help the gora saab.

At 4.27 you hear gunshot and a large amount of dust getting kicked near the tiger followed by two more shots. Did the first round go though the tiger and kick up dust on the other side ? Or did the round hit ground just short of the tiger ?

Were those elephants trained to kick and stomp the cats to ensure they were dead ?

Any ways this is so unfair to the tiger. Also wrong in hindsight for all the tigers.

M.
nevil wrote:200 beaters elephants so many rifles and one tiger poor thing does not have a chance :(

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:37 pm
by GNV
It is not tiger "hunting".It was the British style tiger butchering. And to think that even Jim Carbett considered it was a sporting way is ....... :(

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:09 pm
by fantumfan2003
It may not be right to include Jim Corbett in the list of these hunters.
Others here are more knowledgeable than me on this and will surely clarify.
He hunted maneaters only and on some occasions shot a leopard or two which accidentally got in his way of shooting the man eater he was after.
Even in those days Jim had cautioned against the then ongoing, undisciplined, wholesale shikar and dwindling number of tigers.
I think he got into filming tigers later before moving to Africa.

M.
GNV wrote:It is not tiger "hunting".It was the British style tiger butchering. And to think that even Jim Carbett considered it was a sporting way is ....... :(

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:28 pm
by AgentDoubleS
Jim Corbett organised such hakkas to entertain guests and friends. Though his thoughts on conservation evolved over a period of time. If an opportunity would arise for a tiger/predator hunt (legally of course) I would certainly prefer to stalk followed by sitting over a machan.

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:19 pm
by fantumfan2003
Oh....I did not know that.

M.
SS wrote:Jim Corbett organised such hakkas to entertain guests and friends. Though his thoughts on conservation evolved over a period of time. If an opportunity would arise for a tiger/predator hunt (legally of course) I would certainly prefer to stalk followed by sitting over a machan.

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:10 am
by Sakobav
Corbett did arrange one for Lord Curzon the Viceroy and it became a close call for Viceroys daughters..

http://gallimafry.blogspot.com/2012/03/ ... -rule.html

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:45 pm
by Nainitalguru
Absolutely fantastic video. Those were the days! Of course, we must protect the tiger at all costs as the Brits have killed 90% of the tigers that were roaming freely in their rightful territory in the early 1900s.

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:32 am
by nevil
I wouldn't say that the Brits were entirely responsible for 90% loss of tigers or other wildlife in our country it was also the many rajah's maharaja's of the 500 odd states in India who would be bestowed with honours on the killing of 101 tigers anyway what's done is done now we have to save whatever little we have left


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Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:52 am
by AgentDoubleS
The Maharaja of Sarguja alone was known to kill over 1500 tigers, maharaja of Bikaner 200 plus and I am sure there many more stories. My maternal uncles from Bharatpur share nostalgic stories of duck shooting of over 5000 birds in a single day.

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:51 pm
by marksman
Save the forests and see how the tiger population springs back. Leave the dilapidated jungle alone for five years and it will regenerate itself to previous glory with flora and fauna.
Marksman

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:31 am
by xl_target
Absolutely fantastic video. Those were the days! Of course, we must protect the tiger at all costs as the Brits have killed 90% of the tigers that were roaming freely in their rightful territory in the early 1900s.
I wouldn't say that the Brits were entirely responsible for 90% loss of tigers or other wildlife in our country it was also the many rajah's maharaja's of the 500 odd states in India who would be bestowed with honours on the killing of 101 tigers anyway what's done is done now we have to save whatever little we have left
The Brits and the rulers of the princely states killed a lot of Tigers but nowhere were they closer to extinction than today. They also protected and grew those resources.
There were plenty of wild animals left in India at independence. There was also a very functional Forest Service left at that time.

The blame for the miserable condition of wildlife in India today rests on successive Indian Governments since Independence. It is under their watch that not just the Tiger but many of India's wild species have been reduced to the sorry state they are in now. By proxy, then the blame can be passed on to the voters in India who have voted those Governments into office and not made wildlife a priority. That means you and me.

The only reason there is anything left in the jungles of India today is because of the dedication of the few professionals left in the (totally neglected by the Govt.) various Forest Services. If you don't give your Forest Services the funding or the equipment to do their job, you end up with a service that spends all its energies just struggling to survive with precious little left to do anything else.

Re: Tiger Shikar in India - A Tiger Hunt in India by Ellis D

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:00 am
by prashantsingh
Two interesting quotes:

"What matters is not the trophy, but the race.
Not the quarry, but the chase."

and

"There are only two tragedies in the life of a sportsman:
one not getting the trophy he wants:
and the other more serious one, getting it.
There is nothing so heart breaking as finding the handsomest of God's creation lying at your feet reduced to a stinking mass of flesh."