Indians For Guns

All,

I came across this link which gives an interesting time line on the Indian Tiger

http://www.kidsfortigers.org/docs/history.pdf

Very revealing stuff I never knew.

I'd like to know who killed how many tigers in India. I am not playing a blame game here nor am I making it personal, instead just trying to gather data so please do not get me wrong.

M.

Interesting "History Lesson Plan" for kids .

A few facts which the Lesson missed out.

1. Lord Shiva .....kills a tiger which come out from a Yagna , skins it and ties it around his waist. He also sits on a Tiger skin when in "Dhyaan". The tiger here represents Lust and by sitting on it the great God shows that he has conquered Lust.
2. Ashoka's favourite big cat was the Asiatic Lion and not the Tiger.
3. The Mughals favourite passtime was hunting which included falconry and hunting with Cheetahs.
4. Tipu Sultan (also called the Tiger of Mysore) got his name from a Tiger Hunt when while hunting with a French officer, he came face to face with a Tiger and went on to kill it with his sword.
5. The British Raj and post Independence (till 1971). (The tiger almost wiped out thanks to Shikar).
6.Ban on Tiger Hunting after 1971..........Why has Tiger not bounced back from the verge of Extinction?
With No Legal Hunting in India for close to 4 decades .....Why has the Tiger count gone down to less than 1500 today?


The invention of "Fire Arms" was probably the most important factor in extensive "Game" Hunting world wide . The Guns and Rifles made hunting so much easier , than the previously used "traditional " methods. The invention of the motor car added to the ease of the Hunt. Jungle Roads through the deepest jungles made them easily accessible to the (now better armed) Hunters.


There were few Hunters who shot Tigers by the Hundreds and (as mentioned earlier) even counted the unborn cubs in their total count.
There were some old timer Hunters (a few I have known) who considered the former as nothing more than Wanton killing and a show of power and wealth more than anything else. These Hunters felt that it was the way you hunted the Apex Predator (Quality of the Hunt) more than the numbers (Quantity) which mattered.
eg. Shooting down a hundred tigers from a motorised vehicle or a perfectly camouflaged "machaan" was considered less sporting than stalking an animal on foot , following him up and finally getting him.

weak leaders , no will and vote bank policies killed tigers in indian at present there r more indian tigers living out of india ... one good news govt planning to reintroduce cheeta in india

eaglesharp10 wrote: one good news govt planning to reintroduce cheeta in india

Do you really think that will fare any better than Tiger conservation?

xl_target wrote:

eaglesharp10 wrote: one good news govt planning to reintroduce cheeta in india

Do you really think that will fare any better than Tiger conservation?

Col. Kesari Singh - approx 2000 tigers (as per one of his books).
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Col. Kesari Singh - approx 2000 tigers (as per one of his books).

its 1000 and secondly Col. didnt shoot them himself. He was the incharge of 'shikar khana' firstly of gwalior state and then Jaipur state.

He hasd arranged shikar for 1000 (approx) tigers and had witnessed shooting them but not shot these himself.

The 'honour' goes to the maharajas of Gwalior , Rewa and Datia (please note all three are in MP.
Approx between 1100 to 1500 each. (not respectively).
Few others crossed into 4 digits. Several others crossed 500 numerous made centuries and double centuries. (too many to count).

Reaching a 1000 mark for a leopard was no big deal.


I dont want to go into more details as i dont believe in glorifying these older 'records'.

In fact i personally find this record books business pretty horrid. First started by rowland ward and now carried forward by CIc, boone and crocket and SCI.

Rewa-
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_ ... ID=3058729

Had enough tigers around to order a special wildcat...I have seen pics of it in an old Gun mag, at 750 gr, would have flattened ol stripes

[Do you really think that will fare any better than Tiger conservation?[/quote]

lol can`t say it was in bbc news . wat i know its a 100crore project and the people (nomads )inhabiting those area will be shifted to other places (this might help). but u can nver be sure about govts will

eaglesharp10 wrote:one good news govt planning to reintroduce cheeta in india

Instead of preserving what wildlife we still have left and are fast losing, these nitwits cook up harebrained schemes to replace species already lost with their foreign cousins(Iran has already refused to give any of their asiatic cheetah).
These new schemes are a ruse to misappropriate funds, grab land and a host of other spin offs we mere mortals cant even think of.
I remember that in our municipal hospitals equipment worth lakhs (and sometimes crores) would lie unused due to maintenance bills not being paid to the companies citing lack of funds.But talk of buying any new equipment or new additions to the hospitals and the purse strings would be loosened magically .
It makes one's blood boil !

I remember that in our municipal hospitals equipment worth lakhs (and sometimes crores) would lie unused due to maintenance bills not being paid to the companies citing lack of funds.But talk of buying any new equipment or new additions to the hospitals and the purse strings would be loosened magically .
It makes one's blood boil !

Yaj wrote:

eaglesharp10 wrote:one good news govt planning to reintroduce cheeta in india

Instead of preserving what wildlife we still have left and are fast losing, these nitwits cook up harebrained schemes to replace species already lost with their foreign cousins(Iran has already refused to give any of their asiatic cheetah).
These new schemes are a ruse to misappropriate funds, grab land and a host of other spin offs we mere mortals cant even think of.
I remember that in our municipal hospitals equipment worth lakhs (and sometimes crores) would lie unused due to maintenance bills not being paid to the companies citing lack of funds.But talk of buying any new equipment or new additions to the hospitals and the purse strings would be loosened magically .
It makes one's blood boil !

main problem with india is that % of educated people voting is less mostly those people vote who don`t understand politics .
still remember one of my friend told me that no one in his family vote cuz they think their vote is not gonna change anything lol

eaglesharp10 wrote:main problem with india is that % of educated people voting is less mostly those people vote who don`t understand politics .
still remember one of my friend told me that no one in his family vote cuz they think their vote is not gonna change anything lol

Its only about educated ppl voting, its about now trying to get these MP accountable to what they are doing and same is for the Bureaucrats. I think right now they are more dangerous than politicians.
When we have whistleblowers getting shot in broad day light and then culprits walking free, its not only politicians.

dear fantumfan can you please list the people you know who have the biggest bags (2000+).

regards

I think the record is of Maharaja of Rewa who shot around 1200 tigers all himself.. its mentioned in a Book by Great Billy Arjan Singh in one of his books.Its Worth reading Tiger Haven Oxford publications...