If there`s going to be a debate then I`m on your side Vikram because I agree 100%.
There are lots of things that the old-timers did that we regard with horror, disgust or contempt nowadays. People like Corbett and Bell are almost revered yet what they did was wholesale slaughter of Tigers and Elephants etc for no good reason in the case of the Tigers and, ostensibly, for the ivory in the Elephants case. People are extraordinarily good at being hypocrites........I seem to remember one maniac coming onto IFG and wanting to know where he could hunt Tiger. Either extraordinary ignorance or he plain didn`t give a damn !
Leopards around Mumbai?
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i agree with dhols (they are not stray dogs.)
in my experience, dhols, jackals, wolves, hyenas cant be tamed. initially they behave like pups but as they grow up, they start eating poultry/ rabbits etc.
i say again, for every dog like the ones you mention, will show you 10 that dont behave in that way, perhaps more. there are millions of stray dogs in india, and millions of other stray animals. imagine if a majority or even 10% of these animals started hunting.
i repeat, im not challenging anyone but its just an observation. regards to your views ill tell you we had a dog (sindhi-bulldog mix- a litter of whom was smuggled across the border from pakistan) killed a camel.
this is not an exaggeration as dog lovers will understand bulldogs head on a sindhis body can be and was a deadly combination. this came naturally to him and he wasnt trained to do it, but then again he didnt do it for food and he was an exception.
pity about the lion.
i agree with grumpy. there is a biography of corbett caloled 'carpet sahib'.
i have great respect for corbett and he was my childhood hero.(still is in a way.) but that doesnt change the fact that just before turning to conservation, he tried every trick (even dirty tricks) to shoot and kill as many tigers as possible. this behaviour was reflective of his thinking that he wouldnt be able to hunt anymore once he started conservation so wanted to make the most of it.
this excerpt (not a direct quote) is from the above mentioned biography.
havent read a third person accounts of bell much so cant comment.
in my experience, dhols, jackals, wolves, hyenas cant be tamed. initially they behave like pups but as they grow up, they start eating poultry/ rabbits etc.
i say again, for every dog like the ones you mention, will show you 10 that dont behave in that way, perhaps more. there are millions of stray dogs in india, and millions of other stray animals. imagine if a majority or even 10% of these animals started hunting.
i repeat, im not challenging anyone but its just an observation. regards to your views ill tell you we had a dog (sindhi-bulldog mix- a litter of whom was smuggled across the border from pakistan) killed a camel.
this is not an exaggeration as dog lovers will understand bulldogs head on a sindhis body can be and was a deadly combination. this came naturally to him and he wasnt trained to do it, but then again he didnt do it for food and he was an exception.
pity about the lion.
i agree with grumpy. there is a biography of corbett caloled 'carpet sahib'.
i have great respect for corbett and he was my childhood hero.(still is in a way.) but that doesnt change the fact that just before turning to conservation, he tried every trick (even dirty tricks) to shoot and kill as many tigers as possible. this behaviour was reflective of his thinking that he wouldnt be able to hunt anymore once he started conservation so wanted to make the most of it.
this excerpt (not a direct quote) is from the above mentioned biography.
havent read a third person accounts of bell much so cant comment.
You want more gun control? Use both hands!
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.