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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by snIPer » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:18 pm

This was already posted on the forum.

Wild boar hunting is OFFICIALLY permitted in Kerala

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/ker ... 161745.ece
http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/27/stories ... 870700.htm

Shooting of wild boars causing continuous crop loss will begin shortly with the Forest Department framing guidelines for the same. The guidelines will be issued this week.
KOCHI, July 5, 2011



Hunting in Punjab is permitted too.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/punja ... ps/730509/

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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by marksman » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:57 pm

"I had a friend who was posted in that area some time back.
He told me that the jungles are empty. Looks like you guys have finished of most of the animals. Infact he was telling me how even a thickly forested area is devoid of the smallest of birds."
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In spite of no interference for hunting from the Central Gov't, as you guys say, legally or otherwise, the forests of North East too are getting devoid of their wild life at a steady pace. What does that prove.? Gov't or self governed...the wild life is doomed anyways...right??


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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by shooter » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:14 pm

nagarifle wrote:here in Nagaland, if invited, the man from moon may come and hunt.
now that opens up a host of possibilities doesnt it :?: :wink:
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by nagarifle » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:48 am

not really as no game= no fun. what could be done is that to go into partnership with one village and get them involved in game care. and then open up the range :D
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by timmy » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:43 am

here in Nagaland, if invited, the man from moon may come and hunt.
But wouldn't his 180 grain bullets only weigh 30 grains? :-)
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by shooter » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:54 pm

timmy wrote:
here in Nagaland, if invited, the man from moon may come and hunt.
But wouldn't his 180 grain bullets only weigh 30 grains? :-)
But wouldnt the increased velocity and increased range (both 6 times) make up for it?
Kinetic energy is directly proportional to the mass (which remains unchanged anyway) but to the square of velocity. :wink:
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by timmy » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:04 am

Kinetic energy is directly proportional to the mass (which remains unchanged anyway) but to the square of velocity.
True enough (I was only trying to be a smart alec), however, I wonder if our lunar visitor would have a different appreciation of his gun's ballistics: I would think he's not used to doing too much compensation for bullet drop!
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by nagarifle » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:57 am

timmy wrote:
Kinetic energy is directly proportional to the mass (which remains unchanged anyway) but to the square of velocity.
True enough (I was only trying to be a smart alec), however, I wonder if our lunar visitor would have a different appreciation of his gun's ballistics: I would think he's not used to doing too much compensation for bullet drop!
unless they are nuke powered then its a different ball of game
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by ashok32bareta » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:54 am

I can tell you with authority that hunting is illegal in Arunachal Pradesh and is a punishable offence under wild life protection act. Having said that, the laxity of forest department and its officials , the complex land owning rights and the tribal culture, in which hunting is a customary issue , the practice still goes on but illegaly. To quote article 371A of the constitution to validate the hunting in tribal state is erranous. The constitution of India safegaurds the customary tribal laws , culture and practices, but in "traditional way". No where it is stated that, on the pretext of tradition you are allowed to hunt with scope fitted rifles or gypsy fitted with flash lights and ultra modern hunting gadgets.
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by nagarifle » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:11 am

ashok32bareta wrote:I can tell you with authority that hunting is illegal in Arunachal Pradesh and is a punishable offence under wild life protection act. Having said that, the laxity of forest department and its officials , the complex land owning rights and the tribal culture, in which hunting is a customary issue , the practice still goes on but illegaly. To quote article 371A of the constitution to validate the hunting in tribal state is erranous. The constitution of India safegaurds the customary tribal laws , culture and practices, but in "traditional way". No where it is stated that, on the pretext of tradition you are allowed to hunt with scope fitted rifles or gypsy fitted with flash lights and ultra modern hunting gadgets.
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the article 371A does it refer to NAGALAND or Arunachal PRADESH? did you know that non- local Indian(as in non nagas) need a special permit (inner line permit) to visit India.

hunting in NAGALAND is not only customary practice but also cultural one. the whole land belongs to the people, and the government need permission to enter the village areas?

when the constitution was drafted, the idea of scope was a remote one at the time. as you say that the Constitution safe guards the culture and practices in a traditional way. i agree with this and would like to add hunting comes under that statement. also no one has said anything about hunting with scope fitted rifles or gypsy fitted with flash lights and ultra modern hunting gadgets.

if we did use them who is going to stop us, since the government does not stop cable tv, phones, vichles, etc from being used which is anti constitutions and anti customary practice and anti cultural one at that. it is the government who encouraging such gadgets.
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by shooter » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:50 pm

so there are no animals there, fine.
there are many game birds farms in india.
What if someone was to get a thousand poults, rear them and then release them and then shoot them like they do in europe, would that be legal in nagaland?
The villagers could charge $10/bird, the profit could go to the village council.
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by nagarifle » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:56 pm

some of us here are thinking along those lines for sometime. this will take some doing and time needs to be spent with the selected village council to convince them that it is good for the right reasons. since this is an open forum am not willing to go into it. as they say "who dares shoots" :wink:
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by prashantsingh » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:27 pm

shooter wrote:so there are no animals there, fine.
there are many game birds farms in india.
What if someone was to get a thousand poults, rear them and then release them and then shoot them like they do in europe, would that be legal in nagaland?
The villagers could charge $10/bird, the profit could go to the village council.
Interesting concept shooter.
Legally you can not keep an Indian "parrot" in a cage as a pet. But you can keep an "imported tota/parakeete".
So it does make sense .
Breed Japanese Quail on a large farm and allow hunters to shoot them .


But you know what. The "animal rights organisation" will never allow it. They will allow the slaughter of animals for meat but will not allow you to "hunt" them in any way.

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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by shooter » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:49 pm

The "animal rights organisation" will never allow it.

Can they do it legally? or protesting?
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Re: Interesting but is this legal?

Post by Yaj » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:16 pm

I think there are laws for humane slaughter of animals and birds reared for food.The fact that they are seldom followed is a different issue, but if someone objects the government could take action.
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