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Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:22 pm
by shooter50
A rare beautiful 404 sold by Rodda in India and made on a Mauser M 98 action by Schuler of Germany. The rifle is chambered for the 404 Jeffrey cartridge. ( 404 EXP or the 10.75 x 73). The rifle is in its original form except for the Pachmayr recoil pad. The original buffalo horn butt plate gave a sore shoulder!! The rifle has a cape buffalo horn forend and pistol grip cap. It shows a rare foreend cross wedge to take up the recoil. The walnut is european with straight grain to give strength in holding up against heavy recoil. It was described by the German Gun Collectors Association as a rare masterpeice by August Schuler. The German markings are all beneath the Walnut to attract British buyers considering the Anglo- German rivalry of those years. A classic dangerous game rife, more than 80 years old but lovingly cared for It has a few bison and tigers to its name. The pictures dont do justice the rifle looks better in real
Cheers

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:27 pm
by Anand
A thing of beauty :) looks to have been kept in good condition. If only it could talk :shock: the stories it could tell us.
Regards,
Anand

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:29 pm
by architectharsha
Beautiful and well maintained :cpix:

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:39 pm
by Vikram
Shooter50,

That is a very nice rifle you have there.If it is yours, my congratulations.Very well taken care of and a classic calibre in a classic configuration.

Best-
Vikram

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:00 pm
by shooter50
Thanks Vikram, I do own the rifle. was trying to edit the post and the pics seem to have all gone, when i try to add them again it says upload limit for the board reached. Till that is sorted out u can view the pics here:
http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy47 ... dda%20404/

Cheers

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:49 am
by Sakobav
shooter50

This is a great gun and how wonderfully this has been maintained. Congratulations and please do post some history of the gun -- very heartening that such treasures are still left in India. WOW

Cheers

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:57 pm
by shooter
good to see an iron sight gun!
Old school rocks!

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:03 pm
by coltpython
great gun!! :)

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:24 am
by mohansingh
Wow what a rifle. Do you get 404 Ammo easily in India? Such a rifle would be a great draw in Africa. Is it for sale?

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:40 pm
by sa_ali
WOW, that a beauty and even better to see it so well maintained.

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:57 pm
by ganeshnayak
Very nice rifle.
How different is a 30-06 cartridge from this one?

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:46 pm
by shooter50
Thanks guys for the nice words. The 404 NE or the 10.75 x 73 as it is known in Germany is a dangerous game cartridge generating (in its modern loadings) more than 4500 ft pounds of energy. A typical modern load would be 400 grain bullets exiting the barrel at about 2300 fps. You can compare this with the 30-06, 180 grain bullets at 2700 fps and 2900 ft pounds of energy. The 404 is best suited for hunting dangerous game, on foot, at ranges withn 50 yards. In the Indian context it is not an all purpose rifle like the 30 06 but a possession for the enthusiast.
Cartridges in India can be imported. You are right such a rife is a prized possession in Africa and even the US. I am not too sure i want to sell it but it all depends on what you can offer :)
Cheers

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:09 am
by brihacharan
Hi Shooter,
> A real feast for the eyes for every true gun aficianado. Great Pics.
> Looked very similar to the Winchester 30-06 model 1917 I owned sometime ago.
> Look after it well - Congrats.
> Suggest if all is well - take a trip to Africa - IFGian Prashant will give you some valuable tips.
Cheers
Brihacharan :cheers:

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:44 pm
by icemanV
Like i had said earlier on Sudesh's post. The gems that keep coming out of the closets in our country are both gorgeous and priceless. I would like to suggest to you not to part with this piece but pass it on to the next generation after using it in your own lifetime.

Ice

Re: Dangerous game rifle

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:16 pm
by eljefe
shooter50 wrote:Thanks guys for the nice words. The 404 NE or the 10.75 x 73 as it is known in Germany is a dangerous game cartridge generating (in its modern loadings) more than 4500 ft pounds of energy. A typical modern load would be 400 grain bullets exiting the barrel at about 2300 fps. You can compare this with the 30-06, 180 grain bullets at 2700 fps and 2900 ft pounds of energy. The 404 is best suited for hunting dangerous game, on foot, at ranges withn 50 yards. In the Indian context it is not an all purpose rifle like the 30 06 but a possession for the enthusiast.
Cartridges in India can be imported. You are right such a rife is a prized possession in Africa and even the US. I am not too sure i want to sell it but it all depends on what you can offer :)
Cheers

Thats a Great find Shooter,Schueler wouldnt have had any problem in getting a 98 in a longish action, I guess approx 3.6 inches to take the 404 action.I think the Colombian k98 were long enough for this.
Hope you can get ammo to try it out? the new Woodleigh Hydrostatics have rave reviews and available in 404J
http://www.woodleighbullets.com.au/inde ... stabilised

Best
Axx