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Query by Beginner...

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:19 pm
by id4gun
Hi Friendz,

For somebody like me who dont have proximity/access to a Rifle Association or a Club, can anyone guide for the following....

1. How far an Indian made rifle can take you in competition?
What can be the best scores achieved in normal conditions, say in 10m or so??
2. At what time/phase/level, one must get regular with a SRA/Club wherever it may be?

I think that once we get to any SRA or Club we are better placed to get proper guiding/coaching. But when and how and on what basis shall we make a decision to approach the SRA overcoming all the barriers???

Regards,
Rahul

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:12 pm
by nagarifle
Hi Rahul

first what is your location, as other member may be near by and maybe able to help/advice on the local situation.

you will find that for competition Indian made rifles etc have much to be desired and hardly used by most shooters.

first thing to do is made enquire at SRA /club and find out what are there rules etc.

please check out the sport section on the forum which does have useful advice.

all the best

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:56 pm
by TenX
Hi id4gun.
Here is a simple analysis of Indian shooting graph.
> Begin shooting in open sight/peep sight guns.
> Take part in local events to score a minimum score to participate in Mavlankar competition.
> Score qualifying requirement in Mavlankar to get eligibility in National Shooting Championship Competitions (NSCC). This qualifying score is valid only if you attend the immediete next NSCC after the Mavlankar, and is valid for 2 years. Open sight matches end at the Mavlankar and have no scope later on. Peep sight or ISSU standard matches can go on as described below.
> Score a Team Qualifying tally in NSCC (depends on the event), to qualify for the National Team Selections.
> Attend about 6-8 National Team selections held in various parts of India.
> An avarage of the top 'x' shooters in every event will be considered for induction into the National Team.
> Once in the team, you will be trained and monitored with adequate grooming. Based on your output, your entry for probable International competitions will be decided.
> Once you represent India in world cups, etc, shoot a good score to be the the top 'x' (depends on the event), so that you guarantee a berth for Olympics.
> Goto pre-Olympics and then the Olympics.
> Shoot well in Olympics to be within the top x of the list, so that you qualify for the Finals.
> Shoot well again to be within the top 8 of the final event, to be in the shoot-out.
> shoot better than ever to get another gold for India.
Simple :)
Now, to get to the NSCC/Team-qualifying, it is preferable to have a club affiliation. If you ahve no local clubs, join NRAI directly.
Notifications of the National Team selections are announced in the NRAI official website.
Indian made rifle (I am assuming its for the Peep-sight Air Rilfe, since that is the only one capable of taking you beyond the Mavlankar Open sight comps), have a general score average of about 92%, whcih is just about enough for you to qualify for the Nationals. For NSCC medal winning chances, it is best to rely on the Feinwerkbaus of Walthers. If you still have a great IHP Peep sight and enough confidence, who knows.
Apart from the gun, you will need quality and adequate equipment and ammo - Jacket/trouser, Sling (50m), pellets, etc. You will pick up this info and what is best for you only by practice and the right environment.
Generally speaking, you will need atleast a 97% in 10m air rifle (Total - 582) to make a mark. As you improve, your chances at the NSCC and team selections will rise.
But, as hard as it may sound, and as simple as the obvious, keen concentration, good skill and dedication will probably outweight most odds. Of course, if you have pellets that drop once in a while (say 3 out of 10 shots), then even the greatest of concentration and focus will not help. Adequacy is required, and skill/enthusiasm/concentration/dedication/discipline/LUCK form the other cards of the deck.
Dont let anyone discourage you. I am sure every shooter in the Olympic grade missed his target in his first few shots. You will improve - believe in that - force required changes - see results.
All the best :)

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:28 am
by nagarifle
hi TenX
thats a great outline you have given. i learnt much from that, it would be great if you could give a shorter and improved version, maybe put it under sport like thread for all the check it out.

thanks

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:16 am
by karizman
TenX";p="50837 wrote:Hi id4gun.
Here is a simple analysis of Indian shooting graph.
> Begin shooting in open sight/peep sight guns.
> Take part in local events to score a minimum score to participate in Mavlankar competition.
> Score qualifying requirement in Mavlankar to get eligibility in National Shooting Championship Competitions (NSCC). This qualifying score is valid only if you attend the immediete next NSCC after the Mavlankar, and is valid for 2 years. Open sight matches end at the Mavlankar and have no scope later on. Peep sight or ISSU standrd matches can go on as described below.
> Score a Team Qualifying tally in NSCC (depends on the event), to qualify for the National Team Selections.
> Attend about 6-8 National Team selections held in various parts of India.
> An avarage of the top 'x' shooters in every event will be considered for induction into the National Team.
> Once in the team, you will be trained and monitored with adequate grooming. Based on your output, your entry for probable International competitions will be decided.
> Once you represent India in world cups, etc, shoot a good score to be the the top 'x' (depends on the event), so that you guarantee a birth for Olympics.
> Goto pre-Olympics and then the Olympics.
> Shoot well in Olympics to be within the top x of the list, so that you qualify for the Finals.
> Shoot well again to be within the top 8 of the final event, to be in the shoot-out.
> shoot better than ever to get another gold for India.
Simple :)
Now, to get to the NSCC/Team-qualifying, it is preferable to have a club affiliation. If you ahve no local clubs, join NRAI directly.
Notifications of the National Team selections are announced in the NRAI official website.
Indian made rifle (I am assuming its for the Peep-sight Air Rilfe, since that is the only one capable o taking you beyond the Mavlankar Open sight comps), have a ganeral score average of about 92%, whcih is just about enough for you to qualify for the Nationals. For NSCC medal winning chances, it is best to rely on the Feinwerkbaus of Walthers. If you still have a great IHP Peep sight and enough confidence, who knows.
Apaet from the gun, you will need quality and adequate equipment and ammo - Jacket/trouser, Sling (50m), pellets, etc. You will pick up this info and what is best for you only by practice and the right environment.
Generally speaking, you will need atleast a 97% in 10m air rifle (Total - 582) to make a mark. As you improve, your chances at the NSCC and team selections will rise.
But, as hard as it may sound, and as simple as the obvious, keen concentration, good skill and dedication will probably outweight most odds. Of course, if you have pellets that drop once in a while (say 3 out of 10 shots), then even the greatest of concentration and focus will not help. Adequacy is required, and skill/enthusiasm/concentration/dedication/discipline/LUCK form the other cards of the deck.
Dont let anyone discourage you. I am sure every shooter in the Olympic grade missed his target in his first few shots. You will improve - believe in that - force required changes - see results.
All the best :)

Great info. Worth making sticky.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:53 pm
by id4gun
Thanks TenX,

the TARGET and MILESTONES are pretty much clear now...

for Nagarifle,
I am presently at Bilaspur Chhattisgarh. I made an enquiry about Club here, office of Chhattisgarh Pradesh SRA is at Delhi. I will visit it sooner than later. But there is no range nearby.
Even in our forum, I didnt find any body from C'garh.
Thanx to you too for your helping advice.

Regards,
Rahul