Indians For Guns

I stumbled upon this exceedingly informative link on a different forum. If you are interested in shooting with iron sights, you will really enjoy reading it.

http://www.shootersforum.com/open-sight ... ights.html


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Vikram

Vikram

great link an entire science and field will read it

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Wow! This is a dissertation to digest, for sure, Vikram. It is also a great find.

I will say that I don't care much for beads, as the gold too often takes on a sheen that makes it hard for my eyes to correctly see. Often, I take a piece of fat wood and smoke the sight in the field. Aperture sights do work better for me.

I need to read this thread in depth to fully appreciate it. Thanks for posting, Vikram!

I would like to add, I found the discussion of moose hunting by one poster to be quite amusing and interesting. He starts out by saying something about not being in shape for moose hunting now, and that when he was young, his dad kept advising him not to shoot the moose in the water.

Truly! If one shoots a moose in a pond, there is big trouble!

The advice I always got was not to shoot the moose anywhere that was not next to a place that my truck could get near.

Sometimes, in the discussion of accuracy and weight and all of the other nuances of a gun, there are more practical issues hunters must face!

If the water is deep enough to float the moose, you can get him to shore easily enough. But once he grounds, you still have a moose in the water. A moose in knee deep water, forget it. Plenty of rope, a come-along, and a sturdy tree within reach.

I am glad you gents found the link interesting and useful. I am going through the link slowly, post by post. There is a lot to read and assimilate.

On water or land, a moose is a formidable burden to get it home.I have seen elk hunters using horses and ATVs. I would think one would need at least a pair of horses to take a moose to a truck/4X4.

I have seen photos from New Zealand where those rugged Kiwis carrying the carcases of even Red Deer and large feral pigs.

Photo from here





You would also find a few contraptions to carry large game on back on this page.

http://www.fishnhunt.co.nz/forum/YaBB.c ... 8239846/90

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Vikram

Vikram, I reckon that a nice bull elk would work out to about 100 to 125 pounds a quarter. That's 4 trips of heavy work for one man, even if the terrain isn't too rough.

Figure that a respectable moose in Montana would work out to about twice that much. If one took a moose far back in the hinterland, how could one possibly get four 200 pound quarters out? Furthermore, if one is in Canada or Alaska, where the moose can get immense, the problem is even worse.

Some guys do drag them on a tarp or get one of those bicycle wheel rigs, but in a lot of the country I've been in, such stuff would not work very well. If one has a string of pack horses, that is ideal. The big buck easterners contract with a guide service, go back up into the wilderness areas where there is more game and vehicles aren't allowed, take their trophies and have the guide pack out the meat for them. That's a pretty reasonable way to go about it, especially with a moose.

Vikram you are absolutely right ! We've developed a propensity for pain to justify our hunting spoils ! Kiwi ingenuity comes into play too and we've also developed a technique that allows us to deftly mould the legs of the carcass into straps that then serve as a back pack. The Red that is pictured is being back packed in thus. Its still a wobbly walk though as the upper body keeps bobbing side by side so a more secure option is to tie it into a wooden stick that supports as a frame. I've carried fallow deer out by this method and it was a PAINFUL experience ! Generally though by ensuring the animal is gutted one would reduce the weight down. I have nothing but respect for those hardy ones that carry RED's and big boar's out of the bush. Great article on the sights sir - thank you for sharing.

Wow! Talk about earning your kill. You have to hand it to those guys.

However, that is one thing that we are told never to do in the US.
In Hunter's safety class, we are told never to pack out the head (especially if it has antlers) or a complete animal on your back.
In the US, there is a chance that you will get shot if you do that; especially around dusk. They tell you to skin and quarter the animal and take it out in game bags.
In this area, with roads around every section, you just drag it to the nearest road and get someone with a pickup truck to haul it to the locker. Obviously the guys in those photos can't do that.