12 gauge Double Rifle.

Sukhraj Singh Pannu · Post by **Sukhraj Singh Pannu** » Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:33 pm

Hello IFGians.
Here are some pictures of my rifle.
Its been in my family from long time, used extensively and is in mint condition.
Its a 28" hammer underlever rifle, weighs about 4.5~5 kg, got leaf sights.
The marking on it is "Charles Nephew & co. London & Calcutta", can anybody tell about its actual maker?

Regards.

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Post by **timmy** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:44 am

Sukhraj, what a lovely rifle! Is it still fired? It looks like a real treasure to me. Thanks for sharing it.

Baljit · Post by **Baljit** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:46 am

SSA Pannu Sahib,Welcome to IFG.I hope you going to have a great time with all of us.
I notice this is your first post here on IFG,Please first go to Introductions & Welcomes thread and interdose yourself to everybody.
Very nice toy you got there Pannu Sahib,Please post more pictures if you can.

Enjoy
Baljit

Post by **Grumpy** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:25 am

I can`t tell you who built the gun unfortunately but it would be useful if you could take more photographs including CLEAR pictures of the barrel flats showing the proof marks etc and the table of the action.
It is a bar-in-wood hammer double rifle - a bar action sidelock. Could be Jones `screw grip` rotary underlever opening or, possibly, a Webley 1866 patent rotary underlever. I suspect the former as the rifle appears to have steel tubes which would make it c.1890s .... very late for a Webley 1866 although guns utilising the Jones rotary underlever design were built into the late 1890s even though it was patented in 1859.
Interestingly, a few days ago I saw a very similar 12-Bore shotgun by E.M.Reilly which was dated to c.1871.

Sukhraj Singh Pannu · Post by **Sukhraj Singh Pannu** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:17 am

timmy wrote:Sukhraj, what a lovely rifle! Is it still fired? It looks like a real treasure to me. Thanks for sharing it.

Thanks and yes it fires.

Sukhraj Singh Pannu · Post by **Sukhraj Singh Pannu** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:17 pm

Baljit saab its for second time I m on IFG, I registered again.
Thnanks for the concern.

Sukhraj Singh Pannu · Post by **Sukhraj Singh Pannu** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:19 pm

Grumpy wrote:I can`t tell you who built the gun unfortunately but it would be useful if you could take more photographs including CLEAR pictures of the barrel flats showing the proof marks etc and the table of the action.
It is a bar-in-wood hammer double rifle - a bar action sidelock. Could be Jones `screw grip` rotary underlever opening or, possibly, a Webley 1866 patent rotary underlever. I suspect the former as the rifle appears to have steel tubes which would make it c.1890s .... very late for a Webley 1866 although guns utilising the Jones rotary underlever design were built into the late 1890s even though it was patented in 1859.
Interestingly, a few days ago I saw a very similar 12-Bore shotgun by E.M.Reilly which was dated to c.1871.

Its a rotary underlever sir.

Post by **Grumpy** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:22 pm

lol.
Yes, of course it`s a rotary underlever - that`s obvious and I said that above - but Jones or Webley type ? That`s what I don`t know.
As I also said, a few more DECENT photographs would help to possibly identify the gun.

Sukhraj Singh Pannu · Post by **Sukhraj Singh Pannu** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:25 pm

Lol

Thats why its important to read twice.
I will post them soon, thought my photography skills are average, rather bad bit i will try.

Post by **Sakobav** » Sat May 31, 2014 9:16 pm

Sukhraj

a great heirloom congrats

Best

Safarigent · Post by **Safarigent** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:14 pm

You shooting slugs through it? Or casting your own bullets?

Sukhraj Singh Pannu · Post by **Sukhraj Singh Pannu** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:33 pm

ngrewal wrote:Sukhraj

a great heirloom congrats

Best

Thanks sir!

Sukhraj Singh Pannu · Post by **Sukhraj Singh Pannu** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:34 pm

Safarigent wrote:You shooting slugs through it? Or casting your own bullets?

I am shooting slugs throught it.

Sukhraj Singh Pannu · Post by **Sukhraj Singh Pannu** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:36 am

ngrewal wrote:Sukhraj

a great heirloom congrats

Best

Thank You sir!

James_Bond · Post by **James_Bond** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:49 pm

one of my relative had a (308 or 315 may be) Double rifle with hammer . He purchase it from on of the Raja family. Presently he gave it to his son (Session Judge ).

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