Indians For Guns

Hi folks,
I am being offered a BSA tubular .22 for Rs 75000/00. It has a fifteen round magazine. I have yet to see the gun but the dealer is saying its in pristine condition except for the fact that bluing needs to be done.

Is the price reasonable? Please help.

Peacefulguns, the rifle you mentioned seems to be sportsman 15 tubular magazine comes with a price between 50-75k.If the rifle is well maintained and groups well go for it.Considering the price of IOF .22lr here in south India (50-65k) a foreign rifle around 75k is not a bad deal.

Regards
Renjith

Thanks Renjith747. I hope the dealer allows me to fire a few bullets. I looked up BSA Pdf on tubular rifles and it said it takes 10 long bullets or 15 of the short ones or any combination of the same.

The ammo for the .311 bore v c schilling I have is very expensive and I want to start my son off in the sport or at least give him more than a nodding acquaintance with guns.

I guess a little bargaining will not hurt me. He wants my rifle in any case.

Regards

Ajay

Peacefulguns wrote: I want to start my son off in the sport or at least give him more than a nodding acquaintance with guns.

If participating your son into competition is your aim go for a cz 452 model 2 if budget is there.It's the best rifle available.This is just my humble opinion.

Regards
Renjith.

From the competition point of view, a tubular magazine gun will not suffice. You must opt for a bolt action where you'll have to load every round one at a time.

Of all the tubular magazine .22 rifles that I have used(most of them old, from grand daddy's era), very few work flawlessly. Most seem to have an ejection problem.

The BSA Sportsman 15 is a bolt action rifle with a tubular magazine.
The price of a Sportsman 15 in the UK would be somewhere between £15 and £200 - and a £200 version would have to be pretty well immaculate, most are around £50-60. Goodness knows what would be considered good value in India.
To my knowledge, more Sportsman 15s were produced than any other BSA .22 lr rifles. Quality was moderate - nowhere near as good as the BSA Martini target rifles.
There isn`t a target version of the CZ452 and, whilst a CZ 452 might be good enough for entry level competition it would not be competitive as it is nothing like accurate enough. .22 target shooting requires rifles capable of extreme accuracy.
By the way, ` its in pristine condition except for the fact that bluing needs to be done` is a contradiction in terms. If the rifle were in pristine condition the bluing would be 100% intact.

By the way, ` its in pristine condition except for the fact that bluing needs to be done` is a contradiction in terms. If the rifle were in pristine condition the bluing would be 100% intact.

Lol, You beat me to it, Grumpy.

Peacefulguns,
If the bluing is gone, even a little bit, the gun is not pristine.

Yes you are right. I have yet to see the gun as the owners have deposited it with a gun shop.

It would also double up as a self defence weapon and provided the ejector mechanism is okay should do the job.

200£ would mean around rs18000 and add 100% tax it would still be Rs40000 or so. Am I right? I wish there was a way to import them.

I do not want to scar my son with a weapon with heavy recoil. My rifle takes 226 grain bullets and you can't help anticipating it.

Iof 22 is any day better than an old used bsa tube.my advise
regards
dr.jk

I had called up the Ishapore factory and they said a .22 rifle costs 48000 including tax ex. I then called up dealer and he confirmed that he would sell it to me for Rs53000/00. The factory told me the wait period is three to four months .

I have one doubt I need help with please. Does this family heirloom policy refer to the license or the gun? What happens if sell off my old rifle for a iof one before a license is granted to me under the family heirloom policy? Does that vitiate my right under the said policy?

Thanks in advance.

I`m not so sure that the IOF .22 rifle is any more accurate than a BSA Sportsman 15 .... and a tubular magazine makes little difference to accuracy. 1940s/1950s BSA barrels were so good that Anshutz target rifles were frequently re-barreled using BSA barrels.
For what you are talking about - a Sportsman 15 needing rebluing - that rifle would be worth maybe £30-£40 which is pretty well 3000-4000 Rupees. The last time I checked the exchange rate ( about two weeks ago ) it was almost exactly £1 = 100 rupees.

Grumpy wrote:I`m not so sure that the IOF .22 rifle is any more accurate than a BSA Sportsman 15 .... and a tubular magazine makes little difference to accuracy. 1940s/1950s BSA barrels were so good that Anshutz target rifles were frequently re-barreled using BSA barrels.
For what you are talking about - a Sportsman 15 needing rebluing - that rifle would be worth maybe £30-£40 which is pretty well 3000-4000 Rupees. The last time I checked the exchange rate ( about two weeks ago ) it was almost exactly £1 = 100 rupees.

IOF Rifle:

http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8

That`s not exactly .22 target performance is it ?
Nor should anyone expect it to be from a sporting rifle.
One holes groups with target sights are what you need to be competitive - telescopic sights aren`t allowed.
There must be someone on this forum who shoots .22 target - I haven`t done so for many, many years because I found it utterly tedious.

Grumpy wrote:I found it utterly tedious.

+1

dr.jayakumar wrote:Iof 22 is any day better than an old used bsa tube.my advise
regards
dr.jk

Hi dr jk,
I think you bought BSA sporter. How are you liking it? How much did you buy it for?