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I wanted to know more about this antique old antique I want info about this Gun !!! If it is to be inherited then how could one save it from the Government laws ??

The year part is not clear !!!!! seems to be somewhat like 18 ... then it is 2 or 8 dunno.. anybody who knows more about it ??

Pics of My Grandpa's WwGreener coming up soon

nice pics
thanks for sharing
waiting to see WWGreener

Thats a breechloading Springfield Trapdoor 1873 a real beauty!

Springfield Trapdoor rifle.

I've fired one in .45/70. Surprisingly, while I expected the recoil to be brutal, it was fun to fire and accurate to boot (at least out to 100 yards).


You can get all kinds of info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1873
http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/springfield-trapdoor.php

xl_target wrote:Springfield Trapdoor rifle.

I've fired one in .45/70. Surprisingly, while I expected the recoil to be brutal, it was fun to fire and accurate to boot (at least out to 100 yards).


You can get all kinds of info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1873
http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/springfield-trapdoor.php

Hail Mogambo (thaz hw nyone wd greet ya in India:: considering yer armory)
Man yer a walking Gunpedia
...I cud mk a wild guess that the recoil might hv been consumed by the weight of the long Barrel ..i never took a shot at it as i don't hv ny cartridges ..mustahv bn built that way to mk it sure that the distant target gets served

jonahpach wrote:Thats a breechloading Springfield Trapdoor 1873 a real beauty!

Thnx

please refrain from using sms language on the forum.. its impolite

jonahpach wrote:please refrain from using sms language on the forum.. its impolite

I am sorry for the language part jonahpach. I am still evolving.

Ha! Looks like Jonah just beat me to my previous post.

The initial trapdoor rifles were converted from regular Springfield muzzle loading rifles by removing the cap lock mechanism, cutting open the area and inserting the trapdoor. The rifles did have some initial teething problems with their copper cartridges sticking in the chamber. Some historians have attributed the rapid destruction of General Custer's 7th cavalry (at the Little BigHorn) to the failure of their early trapdoor rifles as jammed cartridges were later found in some of the rifles. Switching to brass cartridges fixed the problem. There were a few different iterations of the action with the later ones being very reliable. In this post, I posted photos of the original Springfield muzzle loading rifle. There are some closeups so you can see the difference between the musket and the trapdoor version

Approximately five thousand civil war Model 1861 rifled muskets were converted at the Springfield Armory in 1866. It soon became apparent that many of the small working parts in the breech system were not going to have a long service life, and the action was too complicated for normal service use. Therefore, before the Model 1865 production order was completed, a less complex rifle was already being tested. This caused the Model 1865 to be called the "First Allin", and the following revised model, the Springfield Model 1866, to be called the "Second Allin".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1865
While earlier Springfields were issued in some numbers, the 1873 Springfield was the first standard issue breech loading rifle adopted by the US army. The caliber was .45-70.

My personal experiences were positive. Opening the latch caused the spring loaded trapdoor to flip up and the cartridge to be ejected. This was a very positive action and very fast. The moment you flipped the latch, the cartridge seemed to disappear. I even tried to do it slowly to watch the mechanism but it still happened in the blink of an eye. You then inserted a new cartridge, closed the trapdoor which latched shut automatically and cocked the hammer. The rifle was now ready to fire.

Found your post (http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... s&start=15) more informative than wikipedia.
Grasslands of Prairies blended with docile wind and that Classic Springfield muzzle loading gun.. Your Photos really brought 'em alive. That is how Atlat might have been taken over by the Springfield tech.
Really enjoyed them
@ xl_target