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Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:10 am
by LAWMSIAMA
Hello, I had a privilage to enter the def expo with my dad, who is an IPS officer(Adll CP,Delhi Police) and also a gun enthusiastic and I came across a lot of military firearms and was impresed with the latest assault rifles, the FN SCAR-L and FN SCAR-H, which according to me were a good weapon, and the action were smooth, but frankly I would say the Tavor TAR-21 was a bit heavy assuming its lenght and size. But I was most impressed with the actions, the feel and the trigger pull of various Sig Sauer Pistols namely the P226, P228 and the P220. And the Saiga was awesome.. no wonder it was illegal for civilian use

And by the way, taser shock is not pleasant at all

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Myself with the FN SCAR-l/Grenade launcher attached

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Sig Pistols(their double action trigger pull is better than the Beretta I should say)

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The Israeli Tavor TAR-21

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The latest AK-56(note the M4/16 style extendable buttstock)

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My dad(with the Sig 551,currently used by the NSG) and a Sig salesman/expert

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Fun with the FN Minimi

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Taser shock is no fun at all

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FN FiveSeven Pistol

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The FN 2000

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My dad with a SCAR-H

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The SCAR Precision Rifle

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:14 am
by icemanV
Nice Pics.

That taser must have hurt real bad.

Ice

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:05 am
by goodboy_mentor
various Sig Sauer Pistols namely the P226, P228 and the P220. And the Saiga was awesome.. no wonder it was illegal for civilian use
It appears you have some misconceptions about what is legal and what is illegal. Any firearm without proper license is illegal. Any firearm with proper license is legal. P220, P226, P228 and Saiga 12 gauge shotguns are all perfectly legal if you have the respective licenses.

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:29 am
by xl_target
Nice report.
It looks like you and your dad had a blast.
The effects of the Taser, I'm sure was not fun at all.
Thanks for sharing those photos with us.
As for the Tavor; I'm sure it would be significantly lighter without the grenade launcher.

The only thing that I wanted to mention is that the SIG P228 is not a current production pistol. It has a carbon steel folded slide and a rail-less frame. Even though one run of P228's was offered, a couple of years ago, with the P229 railed frame, the slide folding machines are not in use anymore. SIG no longer offers a current production folded slide pistol (which is a shame). The P228 was replaced with the P229 which has a machined stainless slide.

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:29 am
by dev
ROTFL You mean you actually got them to taser you??????

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:44 pm
by LAWMSIAMA
dev wrote:ROTFL You mean you actually got them to taser you??????
yup.... even for just 5 seconds is no fun

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:12 pm
by LAWMSIAMA
xl_target wrote:
The only thing that I wanted to mention is that the SIG P228 is not a current production pistol. It has a carbon steel folded slide and a rail-less frame. Even though one run of P228's was offered, a couple of years ago, with the P229 railed frame, the slide folding machines are not in use anymore. SIG no longer offers a current production folded slide pistol (which is a shame). The P228 was replaced with the P229 which has a machined stainless slide.
maybe you are right buddy

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:14 pm
by LAWMSIAMA
icemanV wrote:Nice Pics.

That taser must have hurt real bad.

Ice
just even for 5 seconds is no fun at all

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:17 pm
by LAWMSIAMA
xl_target wrote:Nice report.

As for the Tavor; I'm sure it would be significantly lighter without the grenade launcher.
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Even without the grenade launcher, it was still heavy according to me

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:43 pm
by rraju2805
nice pixs......
congrats..... :cheers:

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:09 pm
by INSAS556
Good pics...... i wish, i would get the privilege to visit the exhibition someday....
anyways, would like you to correct the tag in the photo which u have marked ak-56, the type 56 was made by chinese(crappy copy of legendary 47.)
the weapon u hold is miles ahoy than its klashnikova predecessors, much more accurate, and stable. The muzzle reminds me of the aksu_74 it might be using a nato round, perhaps.
the bottom line, the weapon u hold is nt a type 56 assault rifle. just generalize it- the klashinkova from Izhmash.
Thanks again for sharing images.... :cpix:

And yes, the tar-21 is a great weapon, its excellently accurate upto 300mtrs. the great thing is that it has capability to work under cqb and perform as an assault rifle. our paratroopers use it.(seen them stamping march on rajpath with these guns on republic day parade.)

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:13 pm
by Skyman
Did you pass out when tasered? Your father looks concerned.

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:24 pm
by Raptor
Skyman wrote:Did you pass out when tasered? Your father looks concerned.
he said it was only for five seconds. Unpleasant, yes...KO no way! Not unless you have a bad heart. Still one has to admire his....his.....erm....his....now what was the word i was looking for?...oh yeah! His guts...one has to admire his guts! Bravo! :clap:

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:37 pm
by Hammerhead
dev wrote:ROTFL You mean you actually got them to taser you ??????
LAWMSIAMA wrote:yup.... even for just 5 seconds is no fun
Image

Re: Guns of FN Herstal, Sig Sauer Pistols, Tavor TAR-21

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:40 pm
by Raptor
INSAS556 wrote:Good pics...... i wish, i would get the privilege to visit the exhibition someday....
anyways, would like you to correct the tag in the photo which u have marked ak-56, the type 56 was made by chinese(crappy copy of legendary 47.)
the weapon u hold is miles ahoy than its klashnikova predecessors, much more accurate, and stable. The muzzle reminds me of the aksu_74 it might be using a nato round, perhaps.
the bottom line, the weapon u hold is nt a type 56 assault rifle. just generalize it- the klashinkova from Izhmash.
Thanks again for sharing images.... :cpix:

And yes, the tar-21 is a great weapon, its excellently accurate upto 300mtrs. the great thing is that it has capability to work under cqb and perform as an assault rifle. our paratroopers use it.(seen them stamping march on rajpath with these guns on republic day parade.)
firstly , you, sir, are spot on. It is not an AK56. Secondly the gun in question is probably an AK12. In fact i am quite certain it is. :)