Indians For Guns

Hi !
I read a post saying that foreign make handguns were comparatively cheeper in Tamil Nadu
Is it the same for other weapons?
does the price of even old weapons of foreign make wary from state to state?
regards

arjun401

i think you must have read this http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=16154.
i think it is comparetively less when handguns are concerned.but for rifles it seems the same or little less.
i have heard from many dealers here that many of the handguns are bought from tamilnadu and sold at higher cost in other states.
regards

Thanks ! Doc
I am looking for a rifle.
A friend told me 30-06 Midland is a good hunting rifle.Can anyone here enlighten me ?
what would be its market price ?

regards

arjun401

arjun401 wrote:Thanks ! Doc
I am looking for a rifle.
A friend told me 30-06 Midland is a good hunting rifle.Can anyone here enlighten me ?
what would be its market price ?

regards

arjun401

if you are in India then hunting is banned so it does not matter. these days in India a rifle in hand is worth four in a frangi land.

locally i saw on Enfield 1917 Winchester in 3006 for 3.75 lac.

arjun401 wrote:Thanks ! Doc
I am looking for a rifle.
A friend told me 30-06 Midland is a good hunting rifle.Can anyone here enlighten me ?
what would be its market price ?

regards

arjun401

friend,
its sad that after 25 posts you have'nt learnt that hunting is illegal.or you just meant it as a ''good for hunting rifle''.please don't even think of shooting anybirds or animals..all is banned,except fruit bats and rats.
regards

I think you would be better off shooting fruit bats and rats with a .375 HH rather than a lowly .30-06 which might leave you under gunned. A .416 Rigby might be even better for the application.

Thanks! Nagarifle
''in India a rifle in hand is worth four in a frangi land"
well said .
I fail to understand why the government is penalizing us like this.
there is no ban on high speed vehicles in India, we are the most densely populated country,worst roads,less education even lesser traffic sense,low income . . . . . . . for these reasons they are responsible for more deaths than licensed firearms of foreign make.
no strict ban on use of polythene and no penalty for carelessly letting water accumulate in house. . . . causing thousands of recorded and unrecorded deaths by Dengue fever every year ( in U.P.) probably the same condition in a couple of other states.

no restriction on sale of liquor . . no need to ascertain that the person buying is capable of handling it responsibly. . . minors can get it . . young men have it and vrooooooom home. . sometimes they end up elsewhere.
in my state on festivals cars n bikes climbing on pavements,dividers, railings and the next day they make the news.
The government pats its back on the increase in revenue by the steep increase in sale every year . . they are not concerned with the rest of the story.

everytime there is a big VIP movement someone loses his life . late to the hospital.

buildings come up against the rules . . . compounding is done and they become perfectly legal
then they dont abide by the safety norms and cause incidents like the latest one in kolkata.
why is there no law that if a building is found to be violating the norms it would vest in the Government ?

n this story can go on n on. .

I fail to understand the logic behind banning import in this way.
Duty can be used as a deterrent
A digital record can be kept of each import
norms for resale can be made stringent
eligibility criteria for an importer can be made tough . .

there can be hundreds of safeguards if there is a wish to allow it

A citizen is being forced to buy a substandard weapon made by the Government factory to safeguard his life n property in the 21st century . . is it not the violation of the fundamental Right to Life?
and the factory shows no signs of improvement and no scope in the future.
u can collaborate with international companies in power,automobiles,petroleum etc and with other countries in Defence production but not in the production of civilian arms. . . . because here u have to prepare the cheapest copy of some foreign design.

The lawmakers get their berettas and PPks for 10K,12K from the customs and the babus have the means to get theirs and the rest of us do not matter.
so we spend our savings to buy a WWII tested rifle just to get a decent weapon.

my apologies for the outburst

arjun401

dr.jayakumar wrote:

arjun401 wrote:Thanks ! Doc
I am looking for a rifle.
A friend told me 30-06 Midland is a good hunting rifle.Can anyone here enlighten me ?
what would be its market price ?

regards

arjun401

friend,
its sad that after 25 posts you have'nt learnt that hunting is illegal.or you just meant it as a ''good for hunting rifle''.please don't even think of shooting anybirds or animals..all is banned,except fruit bats and rats.
regards

Dear Doc
I just wanted an opinion on the quality of the design and the durability of the rifle
being a novice in this field i wish to gain from the knowledge of fellow ifgians

but rather than sharing any information you seem to be struck by a thunderbolt on seeing the word 'hunting'
and started your preaching.
Which law bans keeping a hunting rifle for personal safety?
I am a Lawyer by profession and i think i know the law as good as any of us and I am aware of my duty to abide by it.

let me tell you that in our country even the illiterate know that hunting of wild animals is banned and they have a broad idea because they have heard and seen on TV that Salman Khan,MAK pataudi and some others were caught doing it . . . . a reading of the Act or interpretation of the Law is not required for that.

By the way how do you know that "hunting is illegal"?
is it hearsay or you read it on this forum

Permit me to elaborate a little

In case an animal is killed with a firearm by a licensee then there are certain factors that would determine whether the act was legal or not ,such as the species of the animal,conditions under which it was shot,threat to life or property of the licensee, whether shooting that species was allowed or not etc. so there are several ifs and buts.

In the recent past due to the growing menace of Blue Bull (Nilgai)their killing was allowed under government orders in some districts as they were causing huge loss to crops and pamphlets were distributed by the district administration informing the village populace that it is a species of antelope and does not belong to the cow family so that people of the Hindu community may also be involved in tackling it.

besides i am also a farmer and i am not interested in punching holes in paper so i would like to have a 'Hunting Rifle' on my license.
i may find having a well oiled 'lathi' (bamboo stick) better than owning a brand new .22 rifle or airgun with scopes bipods n other attachments and accessories. . . . . . we have varied interests and environment . . . we should have the basic respect for the interests and views of others.

It would be better if you direct your energy at preventing the violation of law when people try to bend it by importing prohibited goods or when some renowned shot bends the rules by importing a weapon showing that it is for his use but in fact it comes inside the country and is sold in the market at an exponential price.

regards
arjun401

hi Arjun401

no need to get upset. here are few points which will twist your lawyers thinking,

any weapon can be used for hunting. is that not so?

when one say hunting rifle it puts up an automatic assumption that one intends to hunt. try this with your licence office and see what they tell you.

when one say what about a hunting rifle without giving further info of make model cal condition etc it means noting, as any rifle can be hunting rifle and hunting rifle can be target shooting rifle.

the law makes a difference between hunting and life/crop protection. as you are well aware of. so simply put.

hunting is when one goes out to hunt animals.
Protection of life is when one is defending ones life.
crop protection is protecting your crop against wild animals.

arjun401 wrote:

dr.jayakumar wrote:

arjun401 wrote:Thanks ! Doc
I am looking for a rifle.
A friend told me 30-06 Midland is a good hunting rifle.Can anyone here enlighten me ?
what would be its market price ?

regards

arjun401

friend,
its sad that after 25 posts you have'nt learnt that hunting is illegal.or you just meant it as a ''good for hunting rifle''.please don't even think of shooting anybirds or animals..all is banned,except fruit bats and rats.
regards

Dear Doc
I just wanted an opinion on the quality of the design and the durability of the rifle
being a novice in this field i wish to gain from the knowledge of fellow ifgians

but rather than sharing any information you seem to be struck by a thunderbolt on seeing the word 'hunting'
and started your preaching.
Which law bans keeping a hunting rifle for personal safety?
I am a Lawyer by profession and i think i know the law as good as any of us and I am aware of my duty to abide by it.

let me tell you that in our country even the illiterate know that hunting of wild animals is banned and they have a broad idea because they have heard and seen on TV that Salman Khan,MAK pataudi and some others were caught doing it . . . . a reading of the Act or interpretation of the Law is not required for that.

By the way how do you know that "hunting is illegal"?
is it hearsay or you read it on this forum

Permit me to elaborate a little

In case an animal is killed with a firearm by a licensee then there are certain factors that would determine whether the act was legal or not ,such as the species of the animal,conditions under which it was shot,threat to life or property of the licensee, whether shooting that species was allowed or not etc. so there are several ifs and buts.

In the recent past due to the growing menace of Blue Bull (Nilgai)their killing was allowed under government orders in some districts as they were causing huge loss to crops and pamphlets were distributed by the district administration informing the village populace that it is a species of antelope and does not belong to the cow family so that people of the Hindu community may also be involved in tackling it.

besides i am also a farmer and i am not interested in punching holes in paper so i would like to have a 'Hunting Rifle' on my license.
i may find having a well oiled 'lathi' (bamboo stick) better than owning a brand new .22 rifle or airgun with scopes bipods n other attachments and accessories. . . . . . we have varied interests and environment . . . we should have the basic respect for the interests and views of others.

It would be better if you direct your energy at preventing the violation of law when people try to bend it by importing prohibited goods or when some renowned shot bends the rules by importing a weapon showing that it is for his use but in fact it comes inside the country and is sold in the market at an exponential price.

regards
arjun401

friend,
lets not argue.i understand you didn't mean to hunt.
apart from 30 06 and .315 it is queit expensive and difficult to get catridges,so decide accordingly.
regards.

Hi Arjun 401,

Have you bought yourself a rifle or are you still looking.

The broad position is that popular calibres for which cartridges are still being manufactured are expensive. An example is the .30-06 Springfield which can be around Rs. 4,00,000 or more for a good foreign make.

Obsolete or obsolescent calibres may be around Rs. 1,00,000, or less if you are lucky, but cartridges can cost you Rs. 500 or more each. You thus have an option between an expensive rifle with lower priced and easily available cartridges or a less costly rifle with expensive and probably old cartridges.

Regards.

Very Indian indeed! Just tell the guy what he asked for if u can, else why lecture something else n talk n talk! By the way, it's call a hunting rifle which actually is the general name use for it! Maybe it was invented n hunting was not banned then and so was called hunting rifle Why would some1 even suggest shooting rifles! You shoot people n hunt animals, which makes the name shooting more ridiculous uhuh... N crop protection rifle...loooool