its half inch squares...

[eljefe]

Took a couple of colleagues out to the range-noobies, good to start them off.
Traikov is a dedicated martial artist besides his usual profession by day, Jide is another big built lad. Started them off with the 223, no sweat there.The fox target at 100m was interesting.A box of ammo later, I broke out the 243 and they had a go.Then wandered over to a bloke trying out a 223 roo special, a 308 and a 454 casull underlever.They had a go there, came back for more, and a happy day was had by all, until we ran out of ammo.
Got me thinking, I hadnt used the 243 a while and decided I to do up some loads for it using the taipan 100gr bullets.The stuff is good, hard to get and looked exactly like a match bullet to me-FMJ,HP, and +- 0.5 gr variation! thats Lapua class, at a fraction of the price.I have about a 100 left and unlike the 223 62, 69 and 55 gr, had to ration out,so decided to use 3 round groups.Finally made it to the range yesterday.
The results, after a horrific night-broke my loading bench with a 9.3 case being sized on the upstroke(usual me), mangled finger, busted PC- couldnt use quickload etc etc and I've labelled THE pic very aptly...

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[m24]

Nothing like friends, guns and a range to yourself. Your friends coming back??

Regards

[shooter]

Some guys have all the fun. They are lucky to have a friend like you.

Assuming they're novices and looking at their stance, I can appreciate the fact that you have taken efforts to teach them about shooting techniques rather than "heres the rifle, put the crosshair on the target, hold your breath and fire". And thats commendable. Something you so humbly managed to not mention.

I can also see that you have given them a talk about safety.

Good groups at 100m.

Keep it up.

[MoA]

Looks like you have the beginings of one heck of a load for the .243

If you're full re-sizing switch to imperial wax.. will save you a lot of trouble.

Any day at the range is a good day..

[shooter]

Any day at the range is a good day..

Worst day shooting is better than a good day at work.

[Sakobav]

Nice one Eljefe these folks must be excited for the second outing..

Cheers

[eljefe]

Friends will come back-if i can get them to come back here and do some case prep.Need to go out and do a load for the 9.3 ,and I could do with some help...actually, they're hooked and signed up for the next safety course.
Built me a new bench yesterday took some 4 hrs,working 1 1/2 handed-mangled finger deserved sutures, but I'll give it a whirl with strapping- but I've gone the extra yard, 35mm countertop, solid pine, cross braces, left over epoxy on joints, it weighs a ton and is uglier than hooch.Should I try FL sizing a 50BMG
I dont FL size, just the neck, but secret weapon is MINK OIL- soft consistency, like butter, a little goes a loong way and as Mark told me, its good for my skin An ol timer here gave it to me to finish my Brno No1 stock, and I thought it was a whale product, until I learnt about Minks, leather polish et al, thanks to Mark

[MoA]

Mink oil is pricey.. but good.

Whats you brass prep routine?
For my accuracy I tumble, de-prime, ultrasound and trim. With new brass I also neck turn. I used to wieght sort, but with lapua brass its a waste of time.
I anneal my barss every three firings, and full resize post annealing. so far have about ten loadings on the brass lots.

For plinking, its just tumble and load.

[eljefe]

Thats standard routine for the 6.5x284.I have my gunny tumble my brass-after a moly fiasco, where I had to repaint half the house...Plus He does case neck concentricity check for me
Nope I dont anneal, lucky I can get some reloading done with my crazy schedules
243 is Remmy brass, hunting loads,once fired: ultrasound only, pockets cleaned, neck sized.Seated per Lyman's info, minus 20 or 25 thou .Dont have my lil black book here.
I will not go any further,If this starts giving me BR accuracy out of a plain jane 'vanguard' ( ahem, came pillared, plus bedded and floated, torqued to 65 inch lbs ) I dont think I can take the shock

[MoA]

65 in/lb is a lot. I Torque my real pillar to 60 and front to 45.

What kind of stock are you using?

I dont get BR accuracy from my guns. I lack the talent, and the equipment (cant get aggs under .3). Someday I will build one on a Panda action. And some day pigs will fly.

[shooter]

I want to report this post to the mods.

This is an english forum and the use of any other language for the full length of a post is forbidden.

I would like the writers of the last 4 posts to edit them and write them in english so that other people like me can understand them.

[m24]

I want to report this post to the mods.

This is an english forum and the use of any other language for the full length of a post is forbidden.

I would like the writers of the last 4 posts to edit them and write them in english so that other people like me can understand them.

I thought it wouldn't be good manners to interrupt.

Regards

[MoA]

Just wait until you spent some time with me. You will be speaking gunbrish fluently.

[eljefe]

Mink oil is pricey.. but good.

Whats you brass prep routine?
For my accuracy I tumble, de-prime, ultrasound and trim. With new brass I also neck turn. I used to wieght sort, but with lapua brass its a waste of time.
I anneal my barss every three firings, and full resize post annealing. so far have about ten loadings on the brass lots.

For plinking, its just tumble and load.

OK,Shooter and M24, sorry about the arcanum (as Vikram calls it!)

Tumble-puts used brass in a rotary 'tumbler'device with corn or walnut polishing media-to polish the brass

Ultrasound- an ultrasonic cleaner, you ay have seen similar stuff with your jewellers. basicallly a box with a water reservoir where you put the brass and water and switch on for 20 min.I usually add a couple of drops of vinegar and a tsp of salt! brass comes out clean-including the primer pockets! I dont use tumbler at home

Neck turn-where the neck diameter of the cartridge case is uniformed using a rotary tool-power or hand held.

Trim case length is checked in a die and excess metal formed because of the stretch during firing, is removed -Power or hand held rotary cutters available

Anneal the neck of the cartridge case is heat treated to industry standards after being used 3 times -in above quote.this way the metals elasticity is retained and chances of neck separation may be lessened


Weigh sort-I use a digital scale to sort my cases by weight, I try and keep a nominal weight -e.g, between a range of 10-11g and anything lighter or heavier is rejected for match use/ match loads.Idea is to eliminate as many variables and ensure one thing-consistency.

here's a useful link
http://varmintal.com/arelo.htm

[shooter]

Thanks for the useful info eljefe.