Minimum barrel length.

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:25 pm

What is the minimum permitted barrel length for a rifle in India?

If this depends on the calibre, doubtful, then the rifle in question is a .22lr.

Thanks.

Mack The Knife

P.S.: Not sure which whether this should be in the Arms Laws section or not.

penpusher · Post by **penpusher** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:07 pm

Mack The Knife,

The Arms Act and Rules only talk about smooth bore guns while specifying a barrel length for the purpose of qualifying a smooth bore guns as being Prohibited or non Prohibited.There is nothing like a minimum barrell length for rifles.However in the portion pretaining to conversion and shortening of firearms,it is clearly stated that no firearm can have its barrel shortened to less than 20".Moreover, no body can shorten a firearm without having a license for it ,ie. for shortening a firearm.

Take care,
penpusher

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:17 pm

Thanks, penpusher.

Mack The Knife

mehulkamdar · Post by **mehulkamdar** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:34 pm

Mack The Knife,

I was about to suggest that we don't give our neta-babus any ideas if there is no barrel length restriction in the law, but apparently there is already.

I wonder how this affects some of the Mannlicher carbines that I know are owned by friends of my family in the South with 17 1/2" barrels? I don;t recall their having prohibited bore licenses for them though the rifles were chambered for the very fine 7x57s in all cases.

Cheers,

Mehul

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:41 pm

mehulkamdar wrote:I wonder how this affects some of the Mannlicher carbines that I know are owned by friends of my family in the South with 17 1/2" barrels?

Ah-ha! So this chapter will need to be re-opened.

I would like to reduce barrel length to 18" and play with various types muzzle brakes - my designs. Yeah, I know it's only a .22lr

but the fidgety-fart in me needs to keep fidgeting.

Mack The Knife

penpusher · Post by **penpusher** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:24 pm

Mehul,

You can't reduce the length of a rifle barrel to less than 20'' but if the legth is already less than 20'' as it comes from the manufacturer, there is no prohibtion on owning it.So the Mannlichers are safe,but if somebody panics and wants to sell his,do let me know.Will be there faster than you can say Mannlicher

Take care,
penpusher

mehulkamdar · Post by **mehulkamdar** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:31 pm

Mack The Knife,

I do think that with the products that the IOF puts out there could be room for a customisation service. If I were handier with a box of tools, I would do the Trinidad State College gunsmithing course and return to India to work on improving IOF products.

Mehul

penpusher · Post by **penpusher** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:36 pm

Mehul,

If custom made means being one of a kind,then all the IOF made guns are 'custom made'.No two guns are the same

Take care,
penpusher

mehulkamdar · Post by **mehulkamdar** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:40 pm

penpusher,

Glad to see someone who also loves Mannlichers. I would dearly love to own one but they are very expensive in the USA. One of them would be my dream rifle, especially one of the new ones made by Erich Schoder in Germany http://www.eschoder.com/

Hope to have them in India available to Indian law abiding citizens someday.

We'll fight for our rights, without a doubt!

Mehul

penpusher · Post by **penpusher** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:27 am

Mehul,

There is a dealer here with a Steyr made rifle in 9.5mm.It has 'M&S patent' stamped on the barrel and has their bolt and magazine.It had some rust on the outside of the barrel and the toe portion of the butt was missing.Would have bought it had he not taken it apart to jazz it up so that he could get a higher price.

I had found a M&S in 9.3 mannlicher ,but turned out the barrel had been shot with an obstruction in it.

Take care,
penpusher

cyrixoutside · Post by **cyrixoutside** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:33 am

hi,

mannlichers are very commmon in rajasthan, and very cheap also, even for very good condition guns, coz ammunition is not available.

i had a model 1910 M.S scout in 9.5 mm some time back, but i got rid of it as ammunition was selling for RS 450 per round.

rajat

mehulkamdar · Post by **mehulkamdar** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:23 am

Rajat,

Any rough idea of prices for various models and chamberings?

Thanks,

Mehul

PS Some of them, if in good condition, could be sold for good prices over here if someone wanted to export them. MAnnlichers especially the Mannlicher Schonauer sporters are among the finest production bolt action rifles ever made. If you find one in a usable chambering like the 30-06, 7x57 etc just buy it and hang on to it. You won't get a better rifle than that. The 9.5, 8x56 Mannlicher etc are all from the older straight pull series (though they may also have been chambered in the post 1903 M-S rifles, I am not sure as I am no expert) and though ammunition has not been available for some years, recent interest has driven a number of companies to load ammunition for these and the more renowned 6.5x54 etc. If you have a icense and are going to travel in the USA, you could easily get ammunition for them.

Johan · Post by **Johan** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:23 am

Mehul,

RWS currently offers 6,5X54 Mann.Sch. and Norma also had it on their program. http://www.rws-munition.de/de/jagd_patr ... m?navid=10

8x56 and 9,5X57 Mann.Sch. could be handloaded since brass is available

Cheers,
Johan

mehulkamdar · Post by **mehulkamdar** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:34 am

Johan,

Thanks, buddy. Over here, Aardvark Arms and Superior would probably be the best sources - RWS ammunition is not always available. You know how much I like Mannlichers - if I could find some cheap, I would love to bring a few back to the US and keep them. Let's see how it goes when we visit India to attend Anil's wedding, provided you don't get completely distracted by the beautiful Mangalorean girls there.

Just imagine a custom M-S in 6.5x54 in a Damasteel action with a Damascus barrel as well - now I have something to dream about when I sleep!

Mehul

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:16 am

Ahoy there, Johan! Long time no see!

Mangy girls are all well and good but don't forget the Mangalore fish curry. Priorities and all that rot, what?

Mack The Knife

P.S.: Keep a block of ice handy.

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Minimum barrel length.

Minimum barrel length.