15 lakhs ka boom

[Biren]

The thread started with renonwed shots importing Blaser and the price it commands in market and a link to a thread. Here almost all have agreed they have not shot the rifle and their gyan is based on internet stories. The question is who could be the best judge, someone who is shooting blaser or someone whose gyan is based on internet?

Abroad its a premium selling rifle and a faulty product might have a taker here in India, overseas the company would have been long asked to shut shop and management put behind bars.

And if the price renowned shots are selling is an issue, then who stops the guys buying not to participate and get a reowned shot certificate for themself and import weapon of their choice?

After all neither the seller is forcing nor the buyer complaining.

Cheers
Biren

[winnie_the_pooh]

Biren,

1.Are you a seller or a buyer? The reason why I am asking is because you certainly seem to be upset with a) comments on the sale price and b) comments on the Blaser itself.

2.Do people who use a product automatically become experts on it? Do you know the composition of the soap that you use everyday?

3.Do you believe in fairy tales? You certainly seem to believe in this one

overseas the company would have been long asked to shut shop and management put behind bars.

BTW the really nice rifles are not competition rifles. What would be a really nice rifle you ask ? A member here posted about a Mauser Type A in 30-06 that he bought.That would be a really nice rifle.

Guys this post has made some people very upset..(if u know what i am saying)

Why are they upset and who are they? Where is that head scratching emoticon when you need it?

[dev]

Oh the chokra log are very upset...they will soon be gifting you a blaser with a plugged barrel .

Beware of the three hundred...be scared...be very scared.

They gonna get you stripes.

[Biren]

Winnie,

donnt have that kinda money. Even if i had, i would have prefered to slog out at range and import one for myself (if qualified). Current situation is due to Gov policies. Now the techical question whether Blaser is a sound rifle? Someone who has used it is in a better position to reply. Soap i use everyday serves me well bud ( You see thats by use) I need not to know the composition (Have no plans to start manufacturing soap)

Cheers
Biren

[winnie_the_pooh]

Blaser is a sound rifle? Someone who has used it is in a better position to reply.

You can see the photos of some of the fellows who did

[Bespoke]

Winnie,

Someone who has used it is in a better position to reply. Soap i use everyday serves me well bud ( You see thats by use) I need not to know the composition \

Biren

You better sir if you want healthy skin an informed consumer will always look at the ingredients of anything he or she uses same goes with firearms.

[grewal]

It seems "Patiala house" is winning by quite a margin.

[skeetshot]

Friends,

Anytime any of you are in Delhi, please feel free to contact Abhijeet to fix with me to take you to the range to shoot some Blasers and find out yourself why this is the most advanced,innovative and safest development in rifle technology.

[winnie_the_pooh]

Friends,

Anytime any of you are in Delhi, please feel free to contact Abhijeet to fix with me to take you to the range to shoot some Blasers and find out yourself why this is the most advanced,innovative and safest development in rifle technology.

That is a nice offer.Which Blaser is it?I understand that the R8 has had changes made to the bolt head to make it safer.

[winnie_the_pooh]

Just went back to the thread on accuratereloading.com.

As per the experience of some people there have been instances of an accidental discharge when decocking the rifle.The company then quietly redesigned the trigger mechanism.

There is no secondary means of retaining the bolt in case something untoward happens.

There is no receiver to contain the gasses or small parts in case of a catastrophic failure.

These accidents did happen.Blasers have an ardent following and those who love them use the companies response to emphasize how these rifles are safe. Gun manufacture is not a very lucrative business except in India.If a company were to recall rifles like car manufacturers recall cars,they would go bankrupt.Thankfully for Blaser,the incidents have been limited in number enabling them to blame the user in each case and say that the rifle itself is safe.If I were to buy something that had the ability to be configured for different calibres it would be either a Sauer 202 or a Mauser M 03 ( made by Blaser incidentally)

[winnie_the_pooh]

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve ... 2411093651

[MoA]

Winnie please go re-read the thread. The pressures involved in the accident do indicate something contributing tot he accident other than design.

[winnie_the_pooh]

Winnie please go re-read the thread. The pressures involved in the accident do indicate something contributing tot he accident other than design.

As long as that 'something' does not happen,I do believe that is a very good rifle.

[MoA]

Winnie in the words of Forrest Gump: Stupid is as stupid will do.

[TwoRivers]

Action strength and a propensity to send the bolt back into the shooters face are two distinct and separate issues. Straight-pull bolt actions, with the exception of the Swiss Schmidt-Rubins, and the Lee, can unlock and send the bolt back when gas escapes due to a blown primer, or split case. The Ross M1910 could, and obviously the Blaser can as well, though of totally different design. The Mannlicher M88/90 and M95 are not known for it, though the Ross was derived from the M95. Neither of the Mannlichers ever saw much sporting use.
The Ross got its bad rap because it could be incorrectly assembled (by a fool), yet close (with considerable difficulty), and fire from an unlocked bolt. The fix was a rivet in the sleeve. In addition, gas from a split case could unlock it and send the bolt back. Straight-pulls are weak when it comes to extraction, so the M1910 military Ross was cut with loose chamber. Poor war time ammo didn't help, a few more accidents happened and the Ross' reputation was doomed. In reality, it is a tremendously strong, and smooth, action. I owned an M1910 sporter in .280 Ross for a while, but let it go because of its .288 groove, inability to find ammo, and a dove-tail cut in the receiver ring. Turned a military one into an .375 H&H, and the fellow who talked me out of it still thinks it's the best thing ever for following a bear into the brush.
The Blaser, though extremely popular, can obviously also send it bolt back unrestrained when a case lets go. It has happened enough times. Apparently always with belted magnum cases. Because they headspace at the belt, the usual chamber allows the case to stretch at the shoulder every time it is fired; and pretty soon they separate just above the belt.There was never any bore obstruction or damage to the barrel. And yes, I also own a Blaser, in 7mm Rem Mag. Dimensionally, the R93 seems marginal for magnums in the lock-up area. The R8, and new belt-less Blaser Magnum cartridges were probably designed for a good reason.
As to manufacturers not responding in a timely manner. They do their statistics, and carry insurance. What Blaser has put out in response is pure obfuscation. Remington paid out millions. They knew all along that their M7XX series trigger/safety assembly could fail. Yet they didn't fix things until very recently.

With the "standard" 12mm base case, the Blaser R93 is probably safe enough. With magnum chambering and reloads, I'd set the dies carefully, and check and watch the cases like a hawk. Cheers.