30 06 rifle made in USA by Eddystone model 1917

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30 06 rifle made in USA by Eddystone model 1917

Post by tobler69 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:06 pm

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guys please post pics...and what may be the cost of the rifle at present.
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Re: 30 06 rifle made in USA by Eddystone model 1917

Post by coltpython » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:14 pm

Hi
Its a good rifle with an illustrious service history. Eddystone were among the manufactrers who provided the us army with rifles during the First and the Second world war.
US Rifle M1917 (Enfield 1917) (USA)


British Enfield .303 caliber P14 rifle, made in USA by Winchester; note the typical British brass disk with regimental numbers set into the buttstock
image by Frank Rodyns, Belgium

US .30 caliber M1917 rifle, right side


US .30 caliber M1917 rifle, left side


US .30 caliber M1917 rifle, close up view on the receiver


Rear sight and safety switch of the P14 rifle; M1917 rifles had similar sights.
image by Frank Rodyns, Belgium

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Caliber: .30-06 (7.62x63mm)
Action: manually operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 1175 mm
Barrel length: 660 mm
Weight: 4.08 kg
Magazine capacity: 5 rounds

During the earliest part of the XX century, British army had some doubts about the effectiveness of its newest infantry weapon, the famous Rifle, Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield, or SMLE in short. Because of that, government arms factory at Enfield Lock was set up to produce Mauser-pattern rifle and new rimless ammunition for it. By the 1912, such rifle was produced in the form of the Enfield P13 (pattern 1913) rifle, alongside with powerful magnum-class .276 Enfield ammunition. Being too powerful, this cartridge produced excessive muzzle flash and recoil, and worn barrels too quickly. The Great war (1st World war) effectively stopped the development of a new cartridge, and also put the British troops into desperate need for more and more rifles. As the British industry had no spare capacity to produce Lee Enfields, in 1915 the British Government decided to order rifles from private US contractors. The P13 rifle was especially suited for rapid mass production, so it was ordered for British troops, rechambered to the standard .303 British ammunition. The .303 caliber P14 rifles were manufactured by the three US arms plants, the Remington, the Winchester and the Eddystone (subsidiary of the Remington). As the USA entered the 1st World War in 1917, it immediately felt a shortage of infantry rifles, and, like the Britain before, government plants were unable to turn out enough Springfield M1903 rifles for US troops. As the .303 caliber P14 rifles were already in production in USA, US government decided to adopt this pattern to US issue .30-06 ammunition. Resulting rifle was adopted as "US Rifle, .30 caliber, Model of 1917", and produced by the same three plants between 1917 and 1918. During that short time, more than two millions of M1917 rifles were delivered to US Army, and most of the American troops in Europe were actually armed with M1917 rifles. Nevertheless, after the end of the war the Army officials decided to keep the Springfield M1903 as a general issue rifle, probably as a matter of a national pride. Many of M1917 rifles were sold as surplus or put into storage. During the early part of the 2nd World war some of M1917 rifles were shipped to Britain, where they were issued to the Home Guard. To distinguish .30 caliber US-made M1917 from very similar .303 caliber P14 rifles, British-issue .30 caliber M1917 rifles were marked with painted red strip on the buttstock. In general, M1917 rifles (also known as US Enfields) are known as a strong and accurate rifles; many of these were latter sporterized and often rechambered for various hunting cartridges.

The P14 and M1917 are manually operated, rotating bolt action rifles. Mauser-type rotating bolt has two frontal lugs which lock into the receiver ring. Integral staggered-row box magazine holds five rounds and can be loaded using M1903-type stripper clips or loose rounds. Bolt handle is bent down for more comfortable carry, and located at the rear of the bolt. Solid rear receiver bridge has guide slots for stripper clips, and serves as a base for rear diopter sight. manual safety is located at the right side of the receiver, above the trigger guard. Adjustable diopter rear sight offered high accuracy, once the proper windage was set by the drifting of the front sight. M1917 rifles were issued with detachable M1917 knife bayonet and scabbard. The easiest way to distinguish British P14 and US M1917 rifles is to look at the buttstock: the British rifles have a brass disk set up into the right side of the butt, which carries the regiment number. US rifles have no such disk. the rifle cost about 2-2.75lakhs :)

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Re: 30 06 rifle made in USA by Eddystone model 1917

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:14 pm

They are the ones with the heat treatment issues,are they not?

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Re: 30 06 rifle made in USA by Eddystone model 1917

Post by garyhan » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:34 pm

It is the 1903 Springfield that has heat treatment issues. Springfield manufactured rifles numbered under 800,000 and Rock Island rifles numbered under 285,000 are not considered safe to fire due to questionable heat treatment.
The 1917 Enfield did not suffer from this problem.

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Re: 30 06 rifle made in USA by Eddystone model 1917

Post by tobler69 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:44 am

garyhan wrote:It is the 1903 Springfield that has heat treatment issues. Springfield manufactured rifles numbered under 800,000 and Rock Island rifles numbered under 285,000 are not considered safe to fire due to questionable heat treatment.
The 1917 Enfield did not suffer from this problem.

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What is heat treatment??????
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