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78-yr-old prof with 6 bullets gives cops the slip

Mon, Jan 25 12:45 PM

New Delhi, Jan. 25 -- The Delhi Police's incompetence once again came to light when they lost track of Subroto Lahiri, a 78-year-old US-based Indian origin professor who arrived at the IGI airport with six live .22 bullets. Lahiri was held at the airport by the CISF officers who found the cartridges in his bag. Lahiri was then handed over the Delhi Police. Lahiri, however, managed to slip away from them. Making amends, Delhi Police has issued a lookout notice for Lahiri, a professor at a university in Arkansas. "He landed here on Wednesday on an American Airline flight and boarded a coach to the domestic terminal for a Kingfisher flight to Kolkata. However, he left behind a bag from which six live cartridges were found. Lahiri was then held," a senior police officer said. Having no clue of his whereabouts the Delhi Police has asked their Kolkata counterparts to investigate and search for the professor. Kolkata Police, however, deny being contacted. The Ministry of Home Affairs, on the recommendation of Delhi Police, has issued a lookout notice for Lahiri. A Delhi Police team has been sent to Kolkata after a tip-off that a man fitting Lahiri's description has been detained. "We are investigating if the man is Lahiri or not," the officer said.

The Delhi Police let Lahiri go as they wanted a legal opinion before taking any action against him. Lahiri then complained of illness and was taken to a hospital. He discharged himself from there and allegedly took a flight to Kolkata.
Hindustan Times




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AMREETH

-- Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:59 am --

WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN SOME ONE ON TRANSWER OF RESIDENCE ,GOVT DOSENT ALLOW HIM TO GET HIS WEAPON .... AND MAKES EVERY ONE RUN FROM ONE BABU TO ANOTHER WASTING THEIR TIME MAKING THEM GO ROUNDS MAKING THE PERMISSION COMPLICATED .......

The Ministry of Home Affairs, on the recommendation of Delhi Police, has issued a lookout notice for Lahiri.

Another example of Govt. crap to harass citizens. Is a 78-yr-old prof. a criminal, a terrorist or what? If enough laws and rules are made, every citizen of this country can be classified a "criminal" before law.

i think the same case is of nusli wadia MD, bombay dyeing,who boarded a flight to dubai with a gun or cartridges (i dont remember the actual case) but no action was taken against him as he belongs to elite class.and see police is searching a guy, 78 years old and who is in a respectable profession.

I wonder why a professor (in such troubled times of terrorism which is a global phenomenon today) would carry ONLY 6 LIVE Cartridges of a .22 rifle inspite of being aware of the repercussions he would have to face if he were caught. It's like inviting trouble. Like they say in Hindi " Aa Bail (Ox) mujhe Maar". If he had kept them by mistake (like an absent minded professors ) it's a different story.....but if he did it deliberately ....I would say he is plain and simple STUPID.

-- Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:05 pm --

.22 cartridges are easily available (in gun shops) all over India . Why did he have to carry them all the way from the U.S.?

I wonder why a professor (in such troubled times of terrorism which is a global phenomenon today) would carry ONLY 6 LIVE Cartridges of a .22 rifle inspite of being aware of the repercussions he would have to face if he were caught.

In America, people have the freedom to possess arms and ammunition. The law abiding are not "controlled" senselessly the way they are done in India. Carrying arms/ammunition is a very normal and common thing for them. Hence it is very difficult for an American, to even imagine such silly levels of controls prevalent in India and take precautions against possible "repercussions". If I am not wrong, citizens are even allowed arms/ammunition to be carried by many airlines. Many Americans are used to carrying them, like any other object. Unlike we Indians, the carrying of arms/ammunition does not ring "alarm bells" in the mind of most Americans. On the contrary because of the random crime(in such troubled times of terrorism which is a global phenomenon today)they feel compelled more than ever to carry arms for self protection, rather disarm themselves to help terrorists get an easy defenseless target.

This article took me to the flash back when i was held at air port travelling to Thailand with one .22 Kf ammo,carried by mistake in my trousers ....uufffffffffffff it was one of the worst day of my life..I think i wrote the full incident long time back in one of the similer thread...

What idiots! Someone should remind these agents of government, that they are supposed to be spending our (taxpayer) money on pursuing real criminals and not wasting it on such an obviously frivolous case...

You are not alone. We had a case here a couple of years ago, where a muzzle loading lead ball was detected in a jacket pocket as it went through the scanner. The owner of the jacket was promptly pulled out of the line and marched off under armed escort for questioning. After he had missed his plane, the matter finally got to some one higher up in the TSA chain, who had a modicum of brains, and allowed the fellow to leave.
A limited amount of ammunition can be in checked bagagge, if declared; 500 rounds, I believe. So far it has been routine. But you never know. Cheers.

goodboy_mentor wrote:

I wonder why a professor (in such troubled times of terrorism which is a global phenomenon today) would carry ONLY 6 LIVE Cartridges of a .22 rifle inspite of being aware of the repercussions he would have to face if he were caught.

In America, people have the freedom to possess arms and ammunition. The law abiding are not "controlled" senselessly the way they are done in India. Carrying arms/ammunition is a very normal and common thing for them. Hence it is very difficult for an American, to even imagine such silly levels of controls prevalent in India and take precautions against possible "repercussions". If I am not wrong, citizens are even allowed arms/ammunition to be carried by many airlines. Many Americans are used to carrying them, like any other object. Unlike we Indians, the carrying of arms/ammunition does not ring "alarm bells" in the mind of most Americans. On the contrary because of the random crime(in such troubled times of terrorism which is a global phenomenon today)they feel compelled more than ever to carry arms for self protection, rather disarm themselves to help terrorists get an easy defenseless target.

Try carrying ammo in your pocket overseas and even you will be in the slammer. One should be alert specially during these times and the authorities will always deal with one sternly in such a situation. What if the bullets were transferred by the perfectly sane looking old man to a fanatic or a madman got his hands on them. Would they go off if sucked into a planes engine? Call me paranoid but I am close to hitting the floor when a car or bus misfires.

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Well, don't really think a fanatic or madman bent on mayhem would have that much of a problem getting the means to commit that. Six rounds of .22 RF? Getting them sucked into a jet engine would be a pretty far-fetched scenario. Even if that could, and were, to happen, the damage from it, if any, would be less than from a pebble.
I, for one, make sure that nothing is left in my pockets that shouldn't be there when I travel. On the other hand, it would be all too easy to grab a coat you haven't worn in a while, without thoroughly checking the pockets. Ever hear of the forgetful professor? Cheers.

Once again, it's a bloody storm in a teacup... I've had relatives who have traversed 3 continents before realising that they had a couple of rounds of ammo in their bag's zipper... and no one was the worse of it!

The laws are in place to prevent crime, but there is a reason why you have humans in place to interpret & enforce the law - to ensure that they can "take a call" as to who is a real problem, and who is an innocent. If that were not so, we may as well put in place automated robots to enforce the god damn law...

Airport security is an illusion. All that 9/11 et al have achieved is to alienate an sizeable poplulation of trouble makers, and make all law abiding citizens give up their rights in the name of security, which the govt's of the world can not provide to begin with. It is a sad state of affiars. I personally believe we are moving towards either anarchy or totaliarism... I dont know which. As Yossarian once said, ' Just because they havent said they are trying to kill you, doesnt mean they are not trying.'


And why is this in handguns? Technically a .22LR can be shot out of a number of weapons, including the RCL simulator if I remember correctly.

I am sure that everywhere there are laws governing carrying arms and ammunition in flights.Many permit carrying ammunition with notice and permission. Possible to forget,like Two Rivers said,and get into a sticky situation.As Dev says,law does not operate on individual exceptions.The right thing for the professor would have been to stay there, explain the mistake and it is possible that he would not have been charged. I remember reading similar stories.Only, one must remember that commonsense is not very common,especially with our legal system.

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Vikram

Heard an interesting conversation by Alaska airline pilot..this airline seems to understand and treat such instances much better and sanely due to the fact that they fly into hunting paradise Alaska..

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This happened to one of my friends once.. A goevrnment official, he often travels to remote places within the state. On such trips he is used to packing his .25 pistol and a .22 rifle. Back from such a trip he was asked to attend a meeting in Hyderabad without much notice. Nothing happened on his down journey, but on his return trip, a few rounds of .25 ammo and some empty .22 cases were identified in his briefcase! Although he had his .25 licence with him, he was immediately detained and it took a lot of phonecalls from high ranking govenment officials from Mizoram to get him released!

Jonah