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Need help on buying a pistol

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:32 pm
by shadow
Dear champs,
This post of mine is based on "ifs" & assumptions...Firstly, am about to apply for a license for a gun, am more interested in a handgun - a pistol to be precise..Do you think it will pose difficulties since am applying for the first time & a .22 will be a positive approach? Secondly, I was looking at a fully-automatic pistol with no tech spec. in my head (as mentioned earlier am a fresher). I have heard they are bloody expensive in India & I am a guy with moderate lifestyle & hence prefer a not very expensive & still good piece to hold! All this assuming I will get my license soon!

Pls forgive my ignorance (if any cited) & guide me to the light.

Thanks!

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:54 pm
by mundaire
A .22 LR pistol may be expensive in India, but it's also near useless as a self-defence handgun! Since budget is a constraint, why don't you consider the IOFB .32 revolver or .32 pistol... the revolver is a reliable and safe (especially for a newbie) piece and the pistol's problems can be sorted out by a competent gunsmith (if you can find one that is), though his charges are likely to push up the price by an additional 50% or so of the factory price...

Your other question pertains to your arms license application and has already been posted by you on another thread... please do no cross post the same query in multiple threads, it is considered as very poor online manners...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:54 pm
by monty3006
Shadow,
Get a license in hand first. By the time u do get it...... I'm sure U'll be well informed about handguns and the prices of the same.

MSK.

Re: Need help on buying a pistol

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:15 pm
by shadow
Sure mundaire..will be careful about posting threads next time!
Yeah monty...lez wait & watch...cheers

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:56 pm
by amk
Shadow,

Fully Automatic pistols (even if someone makes em) are almost certainly banned. You mean semi automatic.

If you are in jurisdictions where .45s are permitted then get a nice 1911A1. It's a whole lot of gun for your money. It's big and heavy but it'll knock the socks off most things.

If you are getting a .32 then please look at revolvers more carefully; pistols are not the most successful type of handguns in the .32 cal.

So I'd say save money and get the Indian .32 revolver. But first get your arms license, I think that is the most difficult bit eh?

Re: Need help on buying a pistol

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:38 pm
by penpusher
pistols are not the most successful type of handguns in the .32 cal.
:roll: The ones that I have fired have probably not read this because they worked pretty well.Including the IOF ones.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:46 am
by badshah0522
Shadow,
Buy an Air pistol & practice till the time you get hold of your licence.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:52 pm
by amk
My friend's walther gave a whole load of problems; and with Indian ammo just forget it. Llama, Star, all gave a whole lot of problems. A guards IOFB .32 jams every 3 rounds or so. Revolvers are hassle free.

AMK

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:41 pm
by badshah0522
amk";p="33532 wrote: My friend's walther gave a whole load of problems; and with Indian ammo just forget it. Llama, Star, all gave a whole lot of problems. A guards IOFB .32 jams every 3 rounds or so. Revolvers are hassle free.

AMK
My Friend may be you had bad experience with the pistols,but it is not with every one.
last week when i was in India I Fired approx 300 IOF .32 rounds,from IOF,Walther,Barretta,Star,FN Browning,,but there was no Jam after every 3 shots.even after 30 rounds also.........
Though i agree with you that Rev. are more reliable & Less complicated,

Re: Need help on buying a pistol

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:19 pm
by penpusher
AMK

Walther PPK,according to the views expressed on this forum,are prone to jamming.As far as other pistols,don't go by the brand name,but by the condition the pistol is in.

I have fired a number of .32 pistols and own one at present.I have never faced any problem because of Indian ammo as long as it is fresh.The Indian .32 ammo however will not go into the magazine of most of the Browning 1900 pistols.

A .32 ACP pistol may be considered marginal in terms of self defense,however to say that a .32 ACP pistol is unreliable by virtue of the cartridge that it fires,is stretching it a bit too far.Considering the number of .32 pistol manufactured so far,you are the first one to come up with something like this.

Try this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.32_ACP


Get a bad revolver and it will be more trouble to repair than a pistol.The Webley revolvers are one such example.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:21 pm
by amk
The older .32s are usually blowbacks; blowback as a technology/mechanism is problematic. The locked breech mechanism is far better. Even the newer .32s like Keltecs occasionally have hiccups, especially when new. Now would you entrust your life to a piece of hardware knowing that there are chances it may jam when you need it the most?

I am not saying the larger/powerful pistol calibers are 100% reliable, they too have their share of problems but it is far less than the .32.

The revolver is a point and click piece of hardware; very little to go wrong. Of course a badly maintained revolver may malfunction but they are a lot more reliable.

Why do I hear so much about fresh ammo here; ammo is supposed to have a long shelf life. Does the Indian ammo have some problems with storage, is the casing of poor quality?

AMK