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World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:06 pm
by TwoRivers
If you'd like to see a picture of the world's oldest revolver, go to "lutzmoeller", then klick on "Lutz Moeller Munition", drop down and klick on "Alter deutscher Revolver / 1636". Enjoy.

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:26 pm
by Kittu
Hi sir
fkrst revobsr was a flinct lock desindned by some some engliish later copied by samual colt.i knowthe differece between the twos.Elissha corllire thanks

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:53 am
by TwoRivers
ashokgodara wrote:Hi sir
fkrst revobsr was a flinct lock desindned by some some engliish later copied by samual colt.i knowthe differece between the twos.Elissha corllire thanks
Nope. This one is earlier yet, and pre-dates the flintlock. I am familiar with the Collier, there was a beautifully gold engraved one in the museum in Kabul. Don't recall which king it belonged to.

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:18 am
by Vikram
I am trying to locate the link on the website but unable so far under the Munitions section.

http://lutzmoeller.net/

Best-
Vikram

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:36 am
by timmy
Try this:

This is the oldest revolver

It appears to be a snaphaunce type lock. It certainly is beautiful!

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:54 am
by brihacharan
Here it is Guys!
The World's Oldest Revolver

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The revolver started its history of a weapon smith in Nuremberg, Germany. The year was 1597. It was once a status symbol - with prydekor brass, bone and mother of pearl. Over 400 years later it is well preserved in a cellar in Lillehammer.
The reason we know it's from 1597 is because it is a mark of a horse track on it. It tells us with certainty that it was made by the German weapons blacksmith Hans Stopler, says director of Maihaugen, Gaute Jacobsen.

Briha

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:12 pm
by tirpassion
So revolver was not invented in America by Samuel Colt. :shock: :shock: :shock: So Colt did not make all men equal :shock: :shock: :shock:

I am profoundly surprised!!!

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:03 pm
by TC
Lovely post Two Rivers. Thanks

From what I read once, the British and French too tried their hands at the revolver. The mid 16th century British Snaphaunce black powder revolver was possibly their first attempt. The revolver used to work well when brand new and absolutely clean but a little wearing of internal parts or traces of gun powder here and there would ignite all the chambers and I read quite a few people lost their fingers. The chamber had to be rotated by hand and aligned against the barrel. It was obviously a failure because of inherent instability. Here is a link I found on the net. I don't have a scanner at home or else could have posted a picture from my book.

http://britseps.blogspot.in/2012/11/leeds.html

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TC

PS: For gun lovers this blog will be a feast for eyes. Take a tour of a wonderful museum and look at the beauties from India too :D

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:08 pm
by TC
tirpassion wrote:So revolver was not invented in America by Samuel Colt. :shock: :shock: :shock: So Colt did not make all men equal :shock: :shock: :shock:

I am profoundly surprised!!!
Tirpassion, even Colt did not entirely design the revolver in the US. He developed his design on a prototype designed by someone else.

TC

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:01 pm
by brihacharan
TC wrote:
tirpassion wrote:So revolver was not invented in America by Samuel Colt. :shock: :shock: :shock: So Colt did not make all men equal :shock: :shock: :shock:
I am profoundly surprised!!!
Tirpassion, even Colt did not entirely design the revolver in the US. He developed his design on a prototype designed by someone else.
TC
> Sam Colt obviously knew modern marketing fundas way back then....
> Adopt - Adapt - Improve :lol:
Briha

Re: World's oldest known revolver

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:42 pm
by xl_target
tirpassion wrote:So revolver was not invented in America by Samuel Colt. :shock: :shock: :shock: So Colt did not make all men equal :shock: :shock: :shock:

I am profoundly surprised!!!
Hand crafted firearms, have always been the province of the wealthy. Since early firearms were pretty much all hand crafted, you had to be an individual of some material substance to purchase one.
I don't think there is much validity to the claim that Samuel Colt actually invented the revolver. I'm actually surprised that a statement like that exists.
However, by mass producing them so even the common man was able to afford them, Col. Colt did help make make men equal, giving them the ability to defend themselves, regardless of their birth, nationality or ethnic origin.