Indians For Guns

Its real and its here.....

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fantumfan2003 wrote:Its real and its here.....

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Just wondering if a goon who wants to mug points his own gun at the owner and first asks the guy to empty his pockets and his wrist watch (even without realizing that it's worth 300-odd bucks), realizes that he has a concealed gun and proceeds to take that too ?

Other Q that arises is that why does the watch have to be on the wrist since it's an RF tag ? In a home break-in scenario, will the guy have to hold the watch in one hand and the gun in the other, something like the cross and the stake in hollywood vampire movies? Never intend to to buy one of those, but my 2 cents opinion - It's a sales gimmick.

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Good find FF,
I thought they had given up on these types of weapon safeties.

$1300 + $399 for a .22 LR pistol. LMAO!
Good luck on selling those, guys!

Why any one would want a gun that depends on the proximity of another object before it can fire, boggles that mind.
People will tell you; "Oh its for safety". If I keep my gun in a gun safe, it's pretty safe. In fact, its pretty near foolproof. People have been doing that for hundreds of years.

Then they will say: "what if a kid gets a hold of it". If you're a parent and a gun owner and your kid gets a hold of one of your guns and misuses it, you should be the one who is held responsible.
When I was a kid, we were taught that there were certain thing you did not touch without asking.

"Oh, it will help Cops so if someone takes his gun away, they won't be able to shoot him with it". Well, if it's so easy to take a gun away from an armed person, I'll just take it right back.
What if the watch battery dies, leaving the cop defenseless on the wrong side of the tracks?

The lessons learned from Smith & Wesson's negative experience when they came out with built in gun locks, should be taken to heart by every gun manufacturer.
It took a long time for gun owners to forgive S&W. It almost broke S&W. In fact, it took a change in ownership before S&W once again became really popular.
S&W no longer offers a built in gun lock on any of their guns.

In a home break-in scenario, will the guy have to hold the watch in one hand and the gun in the other, something like the cross and the stake in hollywood vampire movies? Never intend to to buy one of those,

As airgun_novice points out; will you have the time to find and wear the watch when woken up in the middle of the night. What if a mugger separates you from the watch, thereby making your gun useless.
He's correct, gimmicks like these are a total waste of everyone's time and resources, including the company who designed it.

airgun_novice wrote:Just wondering if a goon who wants to mug points his own gun at the owner and first asks the guy to empty his pockets and his wrist watch (even without realizing that it's worth 300-odd bucks), realizes that he has a concealed gun and proceeds to take that too ?

What I'm thinking of here is that the goon knows that the software in the gun safety wristwatch is by Microsoft, and that it works like the wireless connection on my Wife's laptop. So, the goon knows that at least 75% of the time, the victim is going to need to hit the wristwatch's control-alt-delete and reboot sequence to get it to work.

xl_target wrote:Then they will say: "what if a kid gets a hold of it".

What rubbish! Kids have been raised forever around dangerous stuff, including guns and automobiles. My Mom drove a farm truck regularly at 9 years old. Now kids twice that age take vehicles, get drunk, and ram into honest citizens walking the town, and the judge lets them off.

The problem here has nothing to do with having enough safeties on guns and everything to do with having safeties from idiots. Now they make Marlin put a safety on their lever action rifles, and the only reason for this is so that someone cannot sue the pants off of Marlin because they were too idiotic to follow simple safety procedures that have been around for well-over 100 years.

All this kind of stuff is a solution looking for a problem, or more correctly, somebody who can't invent something really useful trying to convince people that his useless innovation is what the world really needs. It is a big boondoggle, just as XL rightly points out:

xl_target wrote:$1300 + $399 for a .22 LR pistol.

Nothing useful here. Just some parasite looking to sink his vile proboscis into someone else's money vein.

Just when I think I have seen the limits of stupidity, something like this comes along..................

XL & Timmy, you guys hit it bang on!

It is today's culture of "insulation equates safety" which breeds accidents. It seems the ubiquitous jungle gyms are supposed to be removed from certain US schools becasue kids fall down and get hurt!! Same with guns. Keep the gun away from the kid, ban violent movies (I know parents who don't let kids watch Rambo or Rocky or whatever), and keep the violent video and Xbox games away. Treat guns like a "bad thing" - a friend of mine doesn't give his son GI Joe toys, NERF guns, even Holi & diwali cap guns - and what you get is a wimp society. (I am honestly not aware if "wimp" has any "group-based" derogatory overtones).

Can't resist the temptation to blow my trumpet a bit (heh heh)! I let my son shoot my airgun whenever I do. His 5 shots to my 10. Since he was 6. (OK, he can't shoot free standing, always supported). He never even tries to reach for it, in fact, he keeps others away ("this is very dangerous, it's not a toy, we will shoot when Papa comes home"). Even waits for his turn till I complete my 10!

He is learning (at 9) to sharpen knives on the Lansky with me hovering around behind him. Plus started polishing brass artifacts with Dremel polishing wheel. Very proud to show me how shiny he's made a 50 year old brass pot!

Yes, we do have some added expenditure in Band Aids from time to time, but then, you don't grow up unless you have gotten cut a few times! And each cut teaches you something. And this, not electronic widgets - is real safety. As the rather droll Border Roads Organisation signs say "the best brake is in your head".

This gun and the watch are making the rounds in news columns and websites for quite some time...

Frankly, I just didn't get it.... my immediate reaction was "thank god Samuel Colt didn't live to see this day"

Maybe six months down the line we are gonna hear of a new breed of hackers who break into handguns software

TC

TC wrote:Maybe six months down the line we are gonna hear of a new breed of hackers who break into handguns software

Of course! When I read about this ridiculous thing, I thought about how easy it would be to jam. All a bunch of goons would need is a portable Tesla Coil, and they could EMF every chip in the area, and blow out the ICs in the watches and guns.

Similarly, a jammer would accomplish the same trick. All one would need to do is jam the frequency. Of course, the proponents of this silly thing probably have Prince Charles's understanding of cordless phones (and we all know where that led!).

It would be easy to disarm even large groups of people armed with these things.

But going back to what XL said, I do think that the idea isn't that these things would work -- Instead, they want to add to the cost of the gun, so that fewer can afford them. They don't really want to accomplish anything more than driving guns out of the market, all under the guise of "responsible society."

Such a strategy can only lead to more clandestine manufacture, which, as we all know, is the least amount of control -- essentially no control at all over safety, quality of manufacture, and who gets them in the first place.

But going back to what XL said, I do think that the idea isn't that these things would work -- Instead, they want to add to the cost of the gun, so that fewer can afford them. They don't really want to accomplish anything more than driving guns out of the market, all under the guise of "responsible society."

r

You and XL could be right. This just might be the first silly step in that direction. And this could possibly be done only in the US where pro and anti gun politics is attaining new dimension each year / every election.

As far as jamming these guns go, I was thinking more on the lines of buckets of hot water

TC

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As far as jamming these guns go, I was thinking more on the lines of buckets of hot water

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this made me laugh
as for safety of kids around guns. i have been raises around guns with family members being army officers.that too around 9mm's and shotguns.
i have never ever touched them without their permission or supervision. kids always know whats safe and whats not , provided the adults show them the weapon and show them what it can do.and answer their questions. the kids will then no longer even want to touch the firearms without supervision because they know the adults trust them to be safe.(i speak from experience, i all these years i've never shot anything accidentally,i always shoot under supervision)
i do take our pistols out for cleaning now and then, now that i'm older. but grandad doesn't mind

these kind of "safeties" and gimmicks total bulls*it .
if you cant handle a gun safely with the given safety features, you shouldn't own one.