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7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:09 pm
by xl_target
Amazing!

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Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:33 pm
by shooter
Nice find

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:22 pm
by only32owner
Thanks for sharing this XL

Regards.

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:16 pm
by Vikram
What an amazing design for its time! I am also surprised that it has a screwed on barrel that is detachable.

Thank you,XL, for finding and sharing this amazing stuff with us.

Best-
Vikram

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:17 pm
by only32owner
Vikram wrote:What an amazing design for its time! I am also surprised that it has a screwed on barrel that is detachable.

Thank you,XL, for finding and sharing this amazing stuff with us.

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Vikram
I missed that, in 1680 AD, they were making threads to metal parts, I mean Screws.

Regards.

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:23 pm
by Skyman
Screws existed before that.....

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:28 pm
by only32owner
Skyman wrote:Screws existed before that.....
ok my wrong .

thanks for correcting.

Regards.

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:57 pm
by timmy
What an astounding creation! One only needs to see, or even hear the mechanism being operated, to know that this weapon is of the finest workmanship. Given that the parts are shaped and hardened without any of our modern instrumentation and tools, it is certain that this gun is made by a true artist.

Also, given the lack of any modern tools and processes, each one of these would have been a one-off example, impossible to mass-produce for equipping military forces of the day.

This accomplishment is truly mind boggling! Thanks for sharing!

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:07 pm
by rraju2805
nice

thanx for sharing..........

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:58 pm
by Vikram
An interesting trivia for the Western genre fan.Especially to CKKalyan and HVJ1 :wink: .

When I saw this video, there was a bell ringing somewhere deep in the brain. I was thinking that I read about it somewhere. Then I googled Lorenzoni pistol and Louis L'amour, et voila! He mentions about this pistol in the novel "Jubal Sackett".

Best-
Vikram

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:06 am
by Baljit
Yes indeed very interesting video thank's for sharing XL.


Baljit

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:24 am
by ckkalyan
Many thanks for sharing this gem of a find xl_target - loved every bit of it! :D
Vikram wrote:An interesting trivia for the Western genre fan.Especially to CKKalyan and HVJ1 .

When I saw this video, there was a bell ringing somewhere deep in the brain. I was thinking that I read about it somewhere. Then I googled Lorenzoni pistol and Louis L'amour, et voila! He mentions about this pistol in the novel "Jubal Sackett".

Best-
Vikram
Thanks Vikram, for that fragment - absolutely Jubal Sackett! :D
timmy wrote:What an astounding creation! One only needs to see, or even hear the mechanism being operated, to know that this weapon is of the finest workmanship. Given that the parts are shaped and hardened without any of our modern instrumentation and tools, it is certain that this gun is made by a true artist.

Also, given the lack of any modern tools and processes, each one of these would have been a one-off example, impossible to mass-produce for equipping military forces of the day.

This accomplishment is truly mind boggling! Thanks for sharing!
timmy - Thanks - WoW! The man said ' the coolest flintlock' - I agreeeeeeeee :agree: Astounding!

Lorenzoni - what a Beautiful Mind! Made my day! Do you think he may have been somehow related to Leonardo Da Vinci, way back???
:cheers:

Re: 7 shot repeater - from 1680 AD?

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 3:02 pm
by ckkalyan
Here is a modern day inventor who made a pistol from scratch using ideas from Lorenzoni and Girandoni.

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A Lorenzoni-Girandoni Repeating Pistol

The creator says:
It seems like there is nothing new in firearms design. In the latter 17th Century, A Florentine by the name of Michele Lorenzoni is reputed to be the inventor of a seven to twelve shot repeating flintlock rifle, where the powder and ball were stored in separate compartments in the stock and loaded with the turn of a crank. Did I mention that the gun was also self-priming? It was a complicated gun, expensive to make with the hand tools of the day and had the bad habit of exploding if not properly maintained. It was, however, the first true magazine 'repeater' and was noteable enough to be mentioned in the diary of Samuel Pepys. Lorenzoni-style rifles and pistols were made up the beginning of the percussion era by notable gunsmiths such as Nock of London. The Cookson Repeater, briefly produced in this country, was a variant of this design.

Needless to say, surviving originals, particularly the pistols, are rare and stunningly expensive.I would be hesitant to build a black powder pistol of this type; I like my fingers just where they are, but a pistol of this type using smokeless powder could be designed to be perfectly safe. Black powder easily ignites and will exlode with little confinement, but smokeless powder is very hard to ignite and unless well-confined will simply burn slowly. All that would be needed to prevent a magazine explosion would be to keep the powder tube from a direct flash-over from the chamber, and even if this were to occur and ignite the powder, provide a low pressure magazine 'blow-out', away from sensitive body parts.
More at his website http://ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_experim ... istol.html

Video links are available at the website. Amazing creation!

Hats off to this man's ingenuity!