Indians For Guns

Howdy Gents,
When it comes to choosing a six gun, I have shortlisted the following manufacturers and hope the comparative data on these beauties will help you to choose the best.
My shortlist consists of three manufacturers, these are (in random order)

1. U.S. Firearms
2. Freedom Arms
3. Sturm Ruger & Co.
The parameters used for my analysis were as follows;

1.Barrel Length - Ranking 10 -Being a target shooter, I am more hooked on to the longer barrels,
also the advantage of couple of extra 100 fps. On a scale of 1- 3, 3 is rated for 7 &1/2 inches and above. Between 6-7 inches rates a '2' and below 6 inches is '1'. To me 7&1/2 inches is ideal, so I have ranked the USFA .22 Target and the .327FM Sparrowhawk the highest at 3 pts each. Next would definitely be the Freedom Arms, though they have choice of 6to 10 inches in the Model 97 and lastly the ruger .327, since it has only a 5&1/2 barrel.

2.No of shots - Ranking 9 - The more the merrier. The USFA and Ruger are both 8 shots for the .327 and 6 shots for the .22.The FA is only 5 shots .

3.Cartridge Versatility- Ranking 8 - I prefer a gun with more options. The USFA gun can fire the .327 FM,.32 HR, .32 SWL .32S, the Ruger can do the first three, whereas the FA is chambered only for the .327 and .32 H&R Mag.

4.Styling - Ranking 7 - The closer to the original Wild west, the better. The USFA are almost replicas, the Rugers have made a few changes with the FA ranking farthest down.

5.Accuracy - Ranking 6 - We are talking of factory finish OTC guns and not Match quality weapons. The FA is the most accurate of the three, the Ruger and USFA are almost the same.

6.Stainless Steel- Ranking 5 - Low maintenance. Ruger and FA take the cake, the USFA offers nickel plating, which I am not in favour of.

7.Sights option - Ranking 4 - Here the more the choice in front blade width, windage and elevation on the rear are always welcome for fitting the gun to the Shooter. Once again the FA has more options, followed by the USFA and Ruger.

8.Price - Ranking 3 - Price, in my opinion is placed lower down, simply because, if you wanna have it then you are gonna have and price is not that significant. Ruger leads here followed by USFA and trailed by FA.

9.Grips choice - Ranking 2 - The more the choice of grips the better. USFA has almost 9 different grips, followed by very limited options in bothe Ruger and FA.

10.Engraving - Ranking 1 - Though I would love an engraved gun, it simply wont shoot better than a non - engraved gun. Only USFA offers an inhouse custom engraving which are in a class of their own.

The .22/.22 WMR Category;

Ranked No.1 with a total of 114 pts.

USFA
The 22 Target

Ranked No.2 with a total of 105 pts.

Ruger
KNR 6

Ranked No. 3 with a total of 103 pts.

Freedom Arms[/b
Model -97

.327 Federal Magnum

Ranked No.1 with a total of 135 pts.

USFA
Sparrowhawk

Ranked No.2 with a total of 113 pts.

Ruger
KBN 3275

Ranked No. 3 with a total of 103 pts.

Freedom Arms[/b
Model -97


Price/Model

USFA
The 22 Target Rs 75000.00

Ruger
KNR 6 Rs 28000.00

Freedom Arms
Model -97 Rs 129000.00

USFA
Sparrowhawk Rs 75000.00

Ruger
KBN 3275 Rs 31000.00

Freedom Arms
Model -97 Rs 130000.00

H V how do we analysis.from pics or the websites, ,please specify if questions posted are for the Indian members or the overseas ones,here we can analysis the following;
1 Bebley Scott oh sorry Webley Scott, A Series- 4" Barrel / B Series 3" Barrel or A Series in 3" Barrels with safe & without
2.Smith & Wesson the same as above
3.Astra
4.CZs
5.Colt
6 Walther
7.Maybe some Taurus sry i forgot the alltime best seller Arminus 7 goliwala hai ji
Happy Diwali
RGDS
Oh my gosh i really forgot the hottest stuff here IOF Pistol / Revolver the altime favorite USP we just pay the rough equal of US $ 2,000 for this classic in the 32 and US $ 1000 for the same in 22s

It appears hvj1 is indulging in mental sadism and torture upon those living in India by reminding about availability of all these options. "Water, water, everywhere, nor any drop to drink"

Hello Amit and GBM,
Yep, you are right and would love to be in a position to actually try out the revolvers first hand. I am thirsty as hell too, but some mental technique guy told me- "If you want something real bad, then hold the picture in your mind and try to see it in as much detail, and lo and behold, one day it will be in your hand" or something to that effect. Since then, my laptop has a beautifully engraved six gun, which I stare at each day at least 3-4 times, regarding the detail aspect, I keep scurrying around the internet trying to find as much detail as I can...an one day inshallah, before dust to dust, mate I amgonna OWN one of these beauties..
Best Regards

Well hvj1, if you ever come to the US and are in my neck of the woods; I will arrange for you to fire some of the weapons in your list.
I have fired some of the USFA .22 single actions and they aren't too bad. I have never fired a Ruger Single Six so I can't really compare them.

xl_target wrote:Well hvj1, if you ever come to the US and are in my neck of the woods; I will arrange for you to fire some of the weapons in your list.

Tally Ho!

Amit357 wrote: sry i forgot the alltime best seller Arminus 7 goliwala hai ji

Good one Amit .

I wounder if in my life time - Will I be able to buy a brand new Smith or Ruger here in India?

hvj1,
I was over at one of the local Gun shops a couple of days ago and glanced at their handgun display case. They had a Ruger Single Six (blued) for $299 and a stainless for $399. Both were new.
They also had some Ruger Bearcats (now discontinued). They were about half the size and heft of the SIngle Six, meant for really small hands.

Thanks XL_,for making our life a lil more hellish ,we pay US $ 2,000 for a peice of crap called IOF Rev/Pistol,we pay about $ 4000,for a HI-Standard 22 Pistol,and anything from $ 6000 up to US $ 30,000 for a good { WALTHER,S W,COLT,RUGER,etc,etc} Revolver/Pistol.
PS: could you please impress upon Mr Obama for Green Card for a cpl of IFG members on the condition that we will leave the USA the day import of weapons is allowed in India.

Amit357 wrote:PS: could you please impress upon Mr Obama for Green Card for a cpl of IFG members on the condition that we will leave the USA the day import of weapons is allowed in India.

That would be interesting thing to bring to their notice, gun outsourcing

Amit357 wrote:Thanks XL_,for making our life a lil more hellish ,we pay US $ 2,000 for a peice of crap called IOF Rev/Pistol,we pay about $ 4000,for a HI-Standard 22 Pistol,and anything from $ 6000 up to US $ 30,000 for a good { WALTHER,S W,COLT,RUGER,etc,etc} Revolver/Pistol.
PS: could you please impress upon Mr Obama for Green Card for a cpl of IFG members on the condition that we will leave the USA the day import of weapons is allowed in India.

Sorry Amit. I was just trying to make hvj1 cry.

Hi XL_,please PM hvj1 when you wanna make him cry,the amount of tissue papers ( used to dry our eyes) by IFGs Indian members after reading your writeup could have saved a cpl of trees.

Hi Xl and Amit,
Sorry could not reply to your posts, since I was busy sulking in a corner and generally kicking tins and what not . A small dark cloud had gathered over my head and flashes of lightning emanated from it..... Got the picture Mate?
By the way Amit, who are the couplaguys who qualify to go to the US of A.
Best Regards

hvj1: Regarding your point 3.,any gun chambered for the .327 Ruger will chamber and fire all the rest, even if the manufacturer does not state so, or even discourages it. Prolonged use of the shorter-cased rounds eroding the chamber ahead of the case mouth, enlarging the chamber in that area, and eventually causing extraction difficulties with the longer case.
As to accuracy of the guns, how can you make a determination without having tried them from a Ransom, or similar machine rest?