While this might be the same for anyone else, here's my problem with the CCP; as a CCW handgun, it's redundant.
The CCP is mid sized gun. I have three of those in 9mm already.
Ruger hit a home run with its LC9 and LC9S, as far as a compact pistol for pocket carry goes. Ii already have one so I will stick with that.
At present an LC9 with the attached laser is going for $299. The LC9 is dead reliable and will eat any ammo that you feed it.
It will go BANG every time the trigger is pulled and it fits in my pants pocket without being obvious.
Why would I spend $500 on something else.
For that matter, the Walther PPS is more suited to pocket carry that this thing.
Recoil mitigation? Really. It's a 9mm not a 44 Magnum.
At the risk of being sounding elitist; who can't handle the recoil of a 9mm handgun?
Go with a .380 or .32ACP instead then.
Walther CCP Pistol
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This is nothing new... the same system is used in the HK PSP and P7 pistols starting in 1979. The difference is that the P7 is a steel framed gun wheres the CCP is polymer framed. The P7 is also a single action pistol where the striker is initially cocked by the front strap lever such that when the grip is relaxed it is automatically de-cocked and safed, while gripping the front strap automatically cocks the gun allowing to be fired with a short, light, single action pull.
The same concept is also used in the Bulgarian PM02 and the Styer GB -- although in the latter the barrel itself and the slide acts as the piston and cylinder.
I have NEVER found this system to soften recoil. In fact, I find that it makes recoil more pronounced. It is simple. In traditional tilting barrel guns, the recoil is soaked up by the combined mass of the barrel and the slide -- at least initially. In gas delayed guns it is soaked up solely by the slide. Less spring mass, greater recoil.
The one thing this system does allow is for the barrel axis to be very low because the barrel doesn't move and does not need vertical room to tile and fall back down during cycling. This means the guns flip less even if it may push back harder. Still, many tilting barrel designs like Glocks already have barrel axis that are as low if not lower than some of the gas delayed guns.
This is nothing new... the same system is used in the HK PSP and P7 pistols starting in 1979. The difference is that the P7 is a steel framed gun wheres the CCP is polymer framed. The P7 is also a single action pistol where the striker is initially cocked by the front strap lever such that when the grip is relaxed it is automatically de-cocked and safed, while gripping the front strap automatically cocks the gun allowing to be fired with a short, light, single action pull.
The same concept is also used in the Bulgarian PM02 and the Styer GB -- although in the latter the barrel itself and the slide acts as the piston and cylinder.
I have NEVER found this system to soften recoil. In fact, I find that it makes recoil more pronounced. It is simple. In traditional tilting barrel guns, the recoil is soaked up by the combined mass of the barrel and the slide -- at least initially. In gas delayed guns it is soaked up solely by the slide. Less spring mass, greater recoil.
The one thing this system does allow is for the barrel axis to be very low because the barrel doesn't move and does not need vertical room to tile and fall back down during cycling. This means the guns flip less even if it may push back harder. Still, many tilting barrel designs like Glocks already have barrel axis that are as low if not lower than some of the gas delayed guns.
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Re: Walther CCP Pistol
An introduction
A comprehensive review. Well there are heating issues and the ccp may need a trigger job.
some comparisons
A comprehensive review. Well there are heating issues and the ccp may need a trigger job.
some comparisons
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