Which NPB to take on a TR?

[PeterTheFish]

http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=h ... CC0Q9QEwAA , buy this, one of the most reliable and available.will save lot of trouble.
dr.jk

If I want a .32 ACP I would just bring my Walther PP (shown above) over. But frankly, first preference is to avoid antiques...

[PeterTheFish]

Nice guns and most of them will be nicer paper weights once they land in India.

If you want to shoot your gun then better make it a .32. Else the wheel gun in .357 would be a interesting piece but you obviously risk being called a Bangalore cyber cowboy if you intent to daily carry. By Law TR guns are not allowed to be sold but perhaps the wheel gun would command the most value in the Indian Market - should easily fetch you a luxury sedan in barter. I personally prefer blued wheel guns only and this along with the fact that the Law is more often breached than observed is another matter altogether.

This is of course only my personal opinion.

So looks like really a .22 or .32 if I have any intention of shooting while there, or the .357 if I only want to show off .

I would certainly agree that law and order is generally better in India than US. However, I have had the experience of being in two intercity accidents during my years there.

The first an auto sideswiped my brother in laws vehicle. Within 2-3 minutes another 4-5 autos had come which helped us quickly establish my brother in law was at fault.

The other incident my driver (Innova) rear ended another (Maruti 800). They agreed to meet on Mysore to hash out the details. The entire way my driver was furiously making calls. He dropped is for lunch and saw why - drivers of both vehicles had called 25-30 friends to help discuss details, accident investigation, repair costs, etc...

With neither side having an overwhelming advantage, they decided it was the fault of the coconutwala passing by when the incident occurred (and was by then long gone).

While I appreciate that both matters were resolved peacefully, I have also seen vehicles burned after an accident which is certainly a stark reminder that when large crowds are involved (in my experience inevitable in india) no such peaceful outcome is assured.

[PeterTheFish]

Hi there mate
here the steps you need to follow...
1: choose the gun you want to get own it one year and have the invoice for it.
2:get an export license in the US and contact your airlines and do all the formalities with them.
3: declare in indian customs and deposit it there.
4: do the civilian rifle training if your city has that rule, become a rifle club member, apply for license.
5: after getting license go to customs pay deposit fees, customs and get it transferred to your license.
dont get anythign other the .32 it wast in the long run...you will not find ammo.
if you want customs to release your 50 ammo then your license must specify that you can purchase 50 ammo at a time. India its most of the time they only issue 25/50 that is you can buy only 25 ammo at a time.
The problem is getting a license in India, were are you planning to stay in India. If you are not staying in India then its hard to get license when you back to much running around... you are lucky you can get .32 here in Australia its a pain to get a .32 since most of the good ones are bellow 5in barrel length which is prohibited here...

We would be doing this only after shifting to India, most probably Bangalore, but would like to engage an attorney before shifting to minimize delay. With the exception of the revolver, I have owned all firearms above at least a year. But looks like I will be looking for a good 1911 in a NPB to bring over with a .22 slide kit.

I plan to have my wife TR one as well. Do I need to "sell" or otherwise transfer to her 1 year prior?

[surajshuresh]

yes same rules for her too...recently i herd some one and his wife both brought firearms in TR and customs allowed only one and later that guy filed a case and got the other one released to... In Bangalore you will have to do the CRTC training to apply for license. you dont need an attorney to file a license only if they reject then you can take the matter to the court. you must not forget that once you get a firearm on TR you can sell it for 10 years or until 60 years and if you do sell it after 10 years you cannot apply for any license there after for your lifetime.
1911 with a .22lr will be good but i have not know anyone getting a handgun with a conversion kit. I am not sure how the customs would react to it mate. firearms with conversion might be considered only if its from factory not sure about it. In 1911 you can get .38 super with a .22lr but you will not any .38 super ammo in India. Hi i am from bangalore to i have done the CRTC on my last visit. if you are doing CRTC at KSRA and want to become a member of KSRA then you must be in bangalore for atleast 6 months before you apply and you cant do this if you have deposited your firearm at the customs... After you have deposited at the customs you must quickly work on getting the license as soon as possible. The CRTC is compulsory its done batch's both at KSRA and CAR bangalore police mate...
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[dc_newbie]

Great set of pistols Peterthefish. Can you only take one gun on a TR? An Indian license allows 3...but not sure what the TR rules are.

[Vikram]

Depends on what you want form your handgun.

If you are into revolvers, a nice Colt Python in mint condition or a new S&W 27, both in .357 would do very nicely.

Semi-pistols- Glock or Springfield XD in .40 Cal would be grand, if you are into that kind of pistols.

Or you could go for SIG p-226 in .40 Cal.

For the .40 Cal, sourcing ammo would be an issue. But, if you travel abroad at least once a year, you could bring your quota with you back.

If you are not prepared to deal with the hassle of buying ammo abroad, there are plenty choices to buy in .22lr and .32.

Best-
Vikram

[PeterTheFish]

Great set of pistols Peterthefish. Can you only take one gun on a TR? An Indian license allows 3...but not sure what the TR rules are.

Thank you. That is about half of my NPB handguns. You can imagine once rifles and PBs are added in....

I believe TR is limited to one (and perhaps another for spouse). I am most tempted to take handguns. If permitted 3 firearms, I am sure I can find an India rifle and shotgun to my likening, and tweak them up to expectations.

[BowMan]

While I appreciate that both matters were resolved peacefully, I have also seen vehicles burned after an accident which is certainly a stark reminder that when large crowds are involved (in my experience inevitable in india) no such peaceful outcome is assured.

IMO traffic incidents and the ensuing rage coupled with guns is not a healthy situation. The best way is to 'NEVER' brandish a gun in such situations. The only exception could be if one has been threatened by a firearm (and it can be reasonably established so to the authorities if the need so arises) - then of course the situation is totally different.

If you are into revolvers, a nice Colt Python in mint condition or a new S&W 27, both in .357 would do very nicely.

The Python would be something to really look forward to. I wonder if any of our friends on this forum owns a Python? I know of some Model 27s...

[farook]

Hi there mate
here the steps you need to follow...
1: choose the gun you want to get own it one year and have the invoice for it.
2:get an export license in the US and contact your airlines and do all the formalities with them.
3: declare in indian customs and deposit it there.
4: do the civilian rifle training if your city has that rule, become a rifle club member, apply for license.
5: after getting license go to customs pay deposit fees, customs and get it transferred to your license.
dont get anythign other the .32 it wast in the long run...you will not find ammo.
if you want customs to release your 50 ammo then your license must specify that you can purchase 50 ammo at a time. India its most of the time they only issue 25/50 that is you can buy only 25 ammo at a time.
The problem is getting a license in India, were are you planning to stay in India. If you are not staying in India then its hard to get license when you back to much running around... you are lucky you can get .32 here in Australia its a pain to get a .32 since most of the good ones are bellow 5in barrel length which is prohibited here...

We would be doing this only after shifting to India, most probably Bangalore, but would like to engage an attorney before shifting to minimize delay. With the exception of the revolver, I have owned all firearms above at least a year. But looks like I will be looking for a good 1911 in a NPB to bring over with a .22 slide kit.

I plan to have my wife TR one as well. Do I need to "sell" or otherwise transfer to her 1 year prior?

If your coming to Bangalore please do join the Karnataka State Rifle Association on Facebook.

[farook]

Nice guns and most of them will be nicer paper weights once they land in India.

If you want to shoot your gun then better make it a .32. Else the wheel gun in .357 would be a interesting piece but you obviously risk being called a Bangalore cyber cowboy if you intent to daily carry. By Law TR guns are not allowed to be sold but perhaps the wheel gun would command the most value in the Indian Market - should easily fetch you a luxury sedan in barter. I personally prefer blued wheel guns only and this along with the fact that the Law is more often breached than observed is another matter altogether.

This is of course only my personal opinion.

So looks like really a .22 or .32 if I have any intention of shooting while there, or the .357 if I only want to show off .

I would certainly agree that law and order is generally better in India than US. However, I have had the experience of being in two intercity accidents during my years there.

The first an auto sideswiped my brother in laws vehicle. Within 2-3 minutes another 4-5 autos had come which helped us quickly establish my brother in law was at fault.

The other incident my driver (Innova) rear ended another (Maruti 800). They agreed to meet on Mysore to hash out the details. The entire way my driver was furiously making calls. He dropped is for lunch and saw why - drivers of both vehicles had called 25-30 friends to help discuss details, accident investigation, repair costs, etc...

With neither side having an overwhelming advantage, they decided it was the fault of the coconutwala passing by when the incident occurred (and was by then long gone).

While I appreciate that both matters were resolved peacefully, I have also seen vehicles burned after an accident which is certainly a stark reminder that when large crowds are involved (in my experience inevitable in india) no such peaceful outcome is assured.

These are isolated incidents that can happen in any part of the world...

[dr.jayakumar]

http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=h ... CC0Q9QEwAA , buy this, one of the most reliable and available.will save lot of trouble.
dr.jk

If I want a .32 ACP I would just bring my Walther PP (shown above) over. But frankly, first preference is to avoid antiques...

friend your only choice will be either .22 or a .32.,ie if you want to use your pistol regularly.as said earlier,.380,.357 ,.45 and 9mm catridges are diffcult to find.
regards
dr.jk

[PeterTheFish]

Nice guns and most of them will be nicer paper weights once they land in India.

If you want to shoot your gun then better make it a .32. Else the wheel gun in .357 would be a interesting piece but you obviously risk being called a Bangalore cyber cowboy if you intent to daily carry. By Law TR guns are not allowed to be sold but perhaps the wheel gun would command the most value in the Indian Market - should easily fetch you a luxury sedan in barter. I personally prefer blued wheel guns only and this along with the fact that the Law is more often breached than observed is another matter altogether.

This is of course only my personal opinion.

So looks like really a .22 or .32 if I have any intention of shooting while there, or the .357 if I only want to show off .

I would certainly agree that law and order is generally better in India than US. However, I have had the experience of being in two intercity accidents during my years there.

The first an auto sideswiped my brother in laws vehicle. Within 2-3 minutes another 4-5 autos had come which helped us quickly establish my brother in law was at fault.

The other incident my driver (Innova) rear ended another (Maruti 800). They agreed to meet on Mysore to hash out the details. The entire way my driver was furiously making calls. He dropped is for lunch and saw why - drivers of both vehicles had called 25-30 friends to help discuss details, accident investigation, repair costs, etc...

With neither side having an overwhelming advantage, they decided it was the fault of the coconutwala passing by when the incident occurred (and was by then long gone).

While I appreciate that both matters were resolved peacefully, I have also seen vehicles burned after an accident which is certainly a stark reminder that when large crowds are involved (in my experience inevitable in india) no such peaceful outcome is assured.

These are isolated incidents that can happen in any part of the world...

That is true - in fact there was an incident in NY very recently where a gang of bikers forced a driver off the road, then dragged him from his car and beat him in front of wife and child.

But reality is, large crowds tend to be more common in India than most places I have been.

[PeterTheFish]

While I appreciate that both matters were resolved peacefully, I have also seen vehicles burned after an accident which is certainly a stark reminder that when large crowds are involved (in my experience inevitable in india) no such peaceful outcome is assured.

IMO traffic incidents and the ensuing rage coupled with guns is not a healthy situation. The best way is to 'NEVER' brandish a gun in such situations. The only exception could be if one has been threatened by a firearm (and it can be reasonably established so to the authorities if the need so arises) - then of course the situation is totally different.

If you are into revolvers, a nice Colt Python in mint condition or a new S&W 27, both in .357 would do very nicely.

The Python would be something to really look forward to. I wonder if any of our friends on this forum owns a Python? I know of some Model 27s...

I would agree that brandishing a gun is much more likely to inflame tempers than cool them - that said, if life is in danger it is better to have more options than less.

I have never here been in a situation so bad I felt a need to draw gun - walking away is always the better choice if possible.

As far as a Python, I sold mine. Just could not justify holding a gun that I didn't shoot due to fear of devaluing it, especially with prices up so much. I now only have the 686+ that I use for pin shooting - may get a 627 eventually.

[dc_newbie]

Nice...this one is made in my neck of the woods in Virginia

I might even consider bringing something like this out of the safe...

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[Vikram]

The Python would be something to really look forward to. I wonder if any of our friends on this forum owns a Python? I know of some Model 27s...

I believe a couple of our members own them. If you do a forum search, the posts might turn up.


Best-
Vikram