Which NPB to take on a TR?

[farook]

First up - my P238.

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Lets say we could choose between the Sig and Walter ppk S / L . Walter did have some issues with the ppks but so did many other manufactures. If I don't maintain a gun its bound to give me issues. Of the lot I would take the Walter. Just make sure you bring in a German Walter. As Walter has broken up with Sw they are for now making them in .22 back in Germany. Very shortly, I would say shot show 2014 they may come up with a .32 all German one. If they don't the SW is still good enough. Make sure to get rid of the flat magazine and bring in some extra pinky support ones...

[surajshuresh]

Only sensible thing to get is a .22lr or a .32acp .32 s&w long 12guage 30-06 anything else is just paper weight obviously there are few other exceptions too but ammo to expensive and 100 rounds per year quota...lol.. i shoot 150 rounds a week 9mm, 38 super, 357 mag etc... I know you will miss all this action India well nothing can be done about it.
get a Beretta 81fs .32acp, beretta tomcat, walther ppk german made or walther ppk/e, bersa thunder 32, sig p230 .32,keltec p32, any 327 magnum revolver all these are great in .32... you could get .357 mag but ammo a big problem... Even i am thinking of getting a .357 mag colt king cobra but due to the ammo problem i am contemplating on that issue mate...

[PeterTheFish]

Lets say we could choose between the Sig and Walter ppk S / L . Walter did have some issues with the ppks but so did many other manufactures. If I don't maintain a gun its bound to give me issues. Of the lot I would take the Walter. Just make sure you bring in a German Walter. As Walter has broken up with Sw they are for now making them in .22 back in Germany. Very shortly, I would say shot show 2014 they may come up with a .32 all German one. If they don't the SW is still good enough. Make sure to get rid of the flat magazine and bring in some extra pinky support ones...

So the Walther is more popular, but the SIG a MUCH softer shooter and more reliable.

Finding a German Walther (as in truly German) means paying big bucks for a ZM model in good shape. Or by German do you even mean a post war model that would have been made in France and just Rollmarked / Proofed in Germany?

I have had a chance to check out the new .22 PPK and frankly other than physical appearance it has NOTHING in common with its Walther cousins.

I say cousins because it is not even made in Walther factory but in Umarex factory that makes .22 1911s, MP5s, etc... It is not even made of steel or aluminum, instead a cheap pot metal alloy. The trigger is terrible. This gun will certainly take the Walther and PPK name even further down that S&W managed.

[farook]

Lets say we could choose between the Sig and Walter ppk S / L . Walter did have some issues with the ppks but so did many other manufactures. If I don't maintain a gun its bound to give me issues. Of the lot I would take the Walter. Just make sure you bring in a German Walter. As Walter has broken up with Sw they are for now making them in .22 back in Germany. Very shortly, I would say shot show 2014 they may come up with a .32 all German one. If they don't the SW is still good enough. Make sure to get rid of the flat magazine and bring in some extra pinky support ones...

So the Walther is more popular, but the SIG a MUCH softer shooter and more reliable.

Finding a German Walther (as in truly German) means paying big bucks for a ZM model in good shape. Or by German do you even mean a post war model that would have been made in France and just Rollmarked / Proofed in Germany?

I have had a chance to check out the new .22 PPK and frankly other than physical appearance it has NOTHING in common with its Walther cousins.

I say cousins because it is not even made in Walther factory but in Umarex factory that makes .22 1911s, MP5s, etc... It is not even made of steel or aluminum, instead a cheap pot metal alloy. The trigger is terrible. This gun will certainly take the Walther and PPK name even further down that S&W managed.

Lucky you to have an opportunity to lay hands on such marvels. Personally I am a hardcore Walter. Had a chance to lay my hands on a ppks .32 last week must say it fits like a glove. But for the price he wanted I could come over to US stay for a year and have it transferred under TR. The other option you may want to look at is a Walter ppk l. If your not happy with the new German .22 you could go ahead with the SW variant. I personally don't suggest anything apart from a .22 or .32. Being a sport caliber they would be available at you city/ district level rifle association on 50 percent subsidiary. We need to wait until the IOF comes out with a 380 pistol and ammo. There after buying the caliber would make more sense. Apart from your wonderful list of guns you may also want to consider a Night Hawk Custom .22 1911. Even though its a lower caliber the longer barrel makes up for it. The Original One

[PeterTheFish]

Farook -

I had actually not even considered barrel conversion kits. Now I am wondering if it might make sense to take 1911 in 10mm or 38 Super along with a .22 conversion. Or Glock 35 with .22 conversion - to allow both serious and practicing use...

Then perhaps have the wife transfer the FN 57.

[surajshuresh]

Hi PeterTheFish
Conversion kit is ok may be a good 1911 or a glock or a sig with .22lr conversion kit but there are lot of complications than you think...I know it i am working on this TR from a long time...Things in India will not happen as in the US... I would suggest only .22lr, .32 because in the US you have more option and its to get any of these more easily than here in Australia mate... Things will more complicated later in the TR process trust me so be prepared...

[surajshuresh]

Hi Farook is the IOF coming out a .380 pistol and ammo??? When and where did you hear this...

[PeterTheFish]

Things will more complicated later in the TR process trust me so be prepared...

I am hoping I can just hire an attorney while I am there for interviews to start the process and be minimally involved. Is that possible?

[xl_target]

I had actually not even considered barrel conversion kits. Now I am wondering if it might make sense to take 1911 in 10mm or 38 Super along with a .22 conversion. Or Glock 35 with .22 conversion - to allow both serious and practicing use...

Then perhaps have the wife transfer the FN 57.

Ammo availability is going to be your big problem after you get to India. You will not be able to get 10mm, 38 Super, .40 or 5.7.
Your choices are going to be limited to, basically, .22LR, .32 S&W Long, 12 ga and .30-06. While you might be able to occasionally acquire other ammo, the supply won't be dependable.

BTW, nice guns. Thanks for sharing.

[PeterTheFish]

Ammo availability is going to be your big problem after you get to India. You will not be able to get 10mm, 38 Super, .40 or 5.7.
Your choices are going to be limited to, basically, .22LR, .32 S&W Long, 12 ga and .30-06. While you might be able to occasionally acquire other ammo, the supply won't be dependable.

BTW, nice guns. Thanks for sharing.

Hmmm. I was thinking to import the 50 odd rounds of 38 Super or 10mm for actual defensive purposes, while keeping the .22 kit for regular practice.

And thank you for the compliment - any of my firearm enthusiast friends can consider this an invitation to join me for a shoot if ever in the area. I'm just a few hours drive from most points New Jersey to New Hampshire.

Regards -

[bennedose]

Hmmm. I was thinking to import the 50 odd rounds of 38 Super or 10mm for actual defensive purposes, while keeping the .22 kit for regular practice.
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Possessing prohibited bore ammunition is illegal. If you are looking at self defence you would be better off sticking to what is legal and available in India. Do you have an Indian licence? If not your weapons will have to find a home in some police thana or gun shop.

If I had all those beautiful guns I would stay in the US just to be with my guns.

[dr.jayakumar]

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dr.jk

[BowMan]

Nice guns and most of them will be nicer paper weights once they land in India.

If you want to shoot your gun then better make it a .32. Else the wheel gun in .357 would be a interesting piece but you obviously risk being called a Bangalore cyber cowboy if you intent to daily carry. By Law TR guns are not allowed to be sold but perhaps the wheel gun would command the most value in the Indian Market - should easily fetch you a luxury sedan in barter. I personally prefer blued wheel guns only and this along with the fact that the Law is more often breached than observed is another matter altogether.

This is of course only my personal opinion.

[surajshuresh]

Hi there mate
here the steps you need to follow...
1: choose the gun you want to get own it one year and have the invoice for it.
2:get an export license in the US and contact your airlines and do all the formalities with them.
3: declare in indian customs and deposit it there.
4: do the civilian rifle training if your city has that rule, become a rifle club member, apply for license.
5: after getting license go to customs pay deposit fees, customs and get it transferred to your license.
dont get anythign other the .32 it wast in the long run...you will not find ammo.
if you want customs to release your 50 ammo then your license must specify that you can purchase 50 ammo at a time. India its most of the time they only issue 25/50 that is you can buy only 25 ammo at a time.
The problem is getting a license in India, were are you planning to stay in India. If you are not staying in India then its hard to get license when you back to much running around... you are lucky you can get .32 here in Australia its a pain to get a .32 since most of the good ones are bellow 5in barrel length which is prohibited here...

[PeterTheFish]

Possessing prohibited bore ammunition is illegal. If you are looking at self defence you would be better off sticking to what is legal and available in India. Do you have an Indian licence? If not your weapons will have to find a home in some police thana or gun shop.

If I had all those beautiful guns I would stay in the US just to be with my guns.

Understood, which is why I proposed taking a gun with a NPB caliber ( I believe both10mm and 38 Super are NPB) as well as a slide kit in a commonly available caliber like .22.

As far as staying in US... We want our children to experience both cultures as they grow up, so a fair bit of India is inevitable.