A Birthday Gift from Mark

[penpusher]

Mehul,

Now that's what you call a Birthday gift.Have fun with it and do share your experience with us.Hopefully,one day, you will let your better half to get her hands on it Boys with toys

penpusher

[Bubbha Singh]

bsingh

Re: small grip - if you read Mehul's post the two gentlemen he has mentioned Raj and Harbans Singh son/father duo make some of the best grips and live near Chicago. I have forgotten the name of their company.

Cheers

Cool, do they do auto grips as well? Any place to see their work?

[mehulkamdar]

penpusher,

We'll shoot the little revolver when you come here. AFAIK, SWMBO loves shooting and she would shoot it if we were out shooting. She can't be bothered with trying different loads, or any of the technical stuff though. I'll post pictures here when we start doing this. I think Inder's coming here would kick start the process.

Thanks for the good wishes, my friend,

Cheers!

[Bubbha Singh]

And, if I need advice on how to shoot something properly, I do know where to ask. As far as where I live is concerned, some might choose the ghetto, others might have a different standard. Again, I wonder how that is anyone's concern except my own.

They're just opinions. Suggesting that you might choose Gary over suburban Chicago in IL may have been frivolous, but my opinions about frame and grip size versus relative recoil are formed from having shot both competitively and informally for 22 years.

I wasn't trying to ruffle feathers, merely concerned that more recoil might mean less desire to practice and get familiar, that's all.

Enjoy your revolver in good health.

[eljefe]

Thanks Mehul for Jogging my memory-I was supposed to pick up a set of grips for my walther on my last trip and missed out...all I've been ogling at and ordering is fishing gear
Here goes:

http://www.eaglegrips.com/index.htm

Congrats on a good gift-thats what friends are for

Best
Axx

[mundaire]

Sweet gun Mehul Hope your wife enjoys shooting it - and you both NEVER have to use it in a "situation", always best to be prepared though...

Bubbha, you are right - everything else being constant recoil for lighter/ smaller guns shooting the same calibre/ load would be more as compared to a heavier/ larger gun shooting the same calibre/ load. Of course the level of recoil a person is comfortable shooting is entirely a matter of personal preference...

An interesting point that comes out of your raising this issue is - how useful is shooting a high recoil gun in a fast paced and adrenalin charged self defence situation?

Am starting a new thread on this point under the self-defence section, so that this thread does not veer OT. Everyone is requested to post their thoughts in this regard on that thread.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[Risala]

Mehul,
You got yourselves a cutie.
Am sure your wife will enjoy shooting with it.
Sorry to hear about your loss,hope the insurance covers it.
Thanks
Sanjay

[mehulkamdar]

my opinions about frame and grip size versus relative recoil are formed from having shot both competitively and informally for 22 years.

BS,

That is less than I have been shooting. And since you seem to enjoy giving advice, here's mine: get yourself a half decent coach. Your experience doesn't count for much if you find it difficult to shoot a small 38.

Asif,

If you want me to, I could pick up a set and send them across to you. Shouldn;t be a problem at all if you let me know what you want.

Abhijeet,

Thanks for the good words. Will go over to the new thread. You'll see some pictures shortly of a sweet little 8 year old girl, who is the daughter of the gentleman who gave me the 38 shooting one of his 1911 45s. The world's different service rounds are a compromise between shootability and power and their designers have to make sure that in the heat of a firefight a police officer or a soldier can use them without worrying too much. Most of these guns were made to be used and they can be with proper practice. A small 38 is not a 2" barreled S&W 500. And, while I am not a recoil junkie like some are, if I could shoot this kind of pistol/round combination, I am sure that anyone else could if they learned how to.

Sanjay,

Thanks. I like revolvers for their simplicity and my wife should find this particularly easy to shoot if required. She is not, as I said earlier, someone interested in the technical aspects of shooting, and once I work out a good load with Mark's help, that would remain what I use in this little gun.

I enjoy shooting rifles for the major part, as I like guns that could be used to hunt with, but in a defensive situation you need to have something with reduced power and which does not overpenetrate. This is just the ticket and it is no surprise that it was selected by someone who has been shooting for more than 35 years and has a safe with more than 100 guns in it.

Cheers!

[Bubbha Singh]

Mehulkamdar:

I never said that I had issues with shooting small, relatively powerful weapons. I simply don't enjoy what becomes abusive recoil at the other end of a box of 50 cartridges, and I find it hard to believe that a novice shooter, or at least a somewhat diminutive to average-sized shooter, would be encouraged to practice by a lot of recoil.

I've owned and shot a 2" .38 Special Charter Arms Undercover, as well as 4" .357 S&W 586, and a 3" 9MM S&W 547. Currently, the only revolver that I have is an 8 3/8" S&W 25-5 in 45 Long Colt; I fulfill my needs with semiautomatic pistols quite nicely, without indulging in any anti-revolver bigotry. All the revolvers in the past were fine for what I expected of them, but the 2" was never a pleasure at the range.

I'm not sure what you're attempting to achieve by being so dismissive towards me, but at 46, after having shot and carried since I was 24, suggesting that I find a better coach is rather arrogant.

This is the last that I'll have to say on the matter, as I have no intention of being fodder for any more machinations. It's apparent that the mistaken identity issue is going to make my stay here difficult, at best.

Good day, sir, and good shooting.

[Grumpy]

Tell you what Mehul, try a 158 gr .38 Special +P round in a 12 oz S&W `J` frame revolver and you`ll alter your opinion as to how much recoil a .38 Special can make !
- Goodness only know what a .357 magnum is like from the same pistol !

[Sakobav]

Grumps

You meant .357 in "revolver" not pistol..

Cheers

[mehulkamdar]

Grumpy,

I have shot a Smith and Wesson Airlite and while it made a big noise and bucked in my hand, I did not feel it hurt me. Should have the pictures somewhere. I shall try to locate them and post them here.

Cheers!

[Grumpy]

I refuse to differentiate between `revolvers` and `pistols`. The idea that a semi-automatic handgun is a `pistol` and a revolving cylinder handgun is a revolver is a stupid British convention that India appears to have copied - just because some idiot in the War Office some during the early 20th century felt the need to ascribe the term `pistol` to semi-auto pistols only. Back in the 19th century gunmakers such as Samuel Colt, Smith & Wesson, Adams & Co, etc were quite happy to refer to their revolvers as `pistols` because that`s what they were - and are.
The terms `revolver` and `semi-automatic` are both abbreviations and terms that describe their mode of operation. They are actually the revolver PISTOL and the semi-automatic PISTOL. On the same basis a flintlock duelling pistol is a PISTOL.......and definitely not a semi-automatic !
Pistol = Handgun.
Wake up Navi - we`ve had this `argument` here already.

[Grumpy]

"I have shot a Smith and Wesson Airlite and while it made a big noise and bucked in my hand, I did not feel it hurt me. Should have the pictures somewhere. I shall try to locate them and post them here. "

I didn`t say it would `hurt` you........and I`ll bet you didn`t try a full-house 158 gr .38 Special +P !

[mehulkamdar]

I didn't try a 38 Special + P. It was a 357 Magnum. We shot 158 grainers