IOF .32 revolver

Risala · Post by **Risala** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:02 pm

I think we just understimate the quality of the IOF products.Most of us have ammo restrictions on our Lic,plus the fact that ammo is expensive,is perhaps reason enough to have not had the opportunity of firing more than a few hundred rounds over a period of time.

Dont have enough info on the civilian range of fire arms produced by IOF,but the ones available for the forces are reliable and rugged,can pump in a few thousand rounds without any problem.

There might be an odd case of a manufacturing defect,but a lot would also depend on how well the fire arm is maintained.

The IOF Revolver looks extrremely reliable to me,havent seen the pistol so cant comment.

Sanjay

Post by **cottage cheese** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:47 pm

Sanjay";p="26879 wrote:I think we just understimate the quality of the IOF products.Most of us have ammo restrictions on our Lic,plus the fact that ammo is expensive,is perhaps reason enough to have not had the opportunity of firing more than a few hundred rounds over a period of time.

Dont have enough info on the civilian range of fire arms produced by IOF,but the ones available for the forces are reliable and rugged,can pump in a few thousand rounds without any problem.

There might be an odd case of a manufacturing defect,but a lot would also depend on how well the fire arm is maintained.

The IOF Revolver looks extrremely reliable to me, havent seen the pistol so cant comment.

Sanjay

No argument there Sanjay.

Just that a nation like ours can do soooooo very much better than the current farce.

The arms of the forces just cannot afford go below a certain level of quality and reliability for obvious reasons. They do the job. Current service arms, without question, meet that standard. But thats just about it. ....And our IOFB + policy makers choose to keep it at the "just about" level... that too at a price one expects for more than "just about".

I've run through about two decades worth of service arms - in that time the quality of arms have gone from decent to outright abominations. Compare arms made in the 70/80s and now.

As regards civilian arms... they probably think they can get away with even poorer standards since national security is not involved(?)... I personally think is very criminal to do so.

Now in all fairness, in spite of my virulent IOFB rants(I really don't like these charlatans), I admit their shoddy pieces actually do function- most often with reasonable reliability. Any manufactured firearm will function- thats whole idea of making it. An accidental piece or two might function extraordinarily well too... but again one cannot pretend thats going to suffice. Most times, my noisemaking is about quality and design...which I'll say is in a particularly deep rut.

For the outrageous money one is coughing for these functioning firearms, one expects better...in fact a whole lot better.

And up to date too.

I will, thus, continue my annoying rants

Rudra · Post by **Rudra** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:28 pm

Dear Friends
Thanks for ur response
The guy knows that i have already applied for my IOF revolver and according to the call letter i will be getting it in the last week of october

According to him the Pistols are a little better than revolvers .
My father owns a S&W Mod 31 and he has fired near about 400 rounds from it(I also have my share in it

) My mother has an IOF revolver (MK1) and i have fired near about 80 rounds from it. Still, no problemo.

According to the guy all the civilian weapons are only assembeled at the factories and the parts are made on contract basis by different small manufacturers.
waiting for ur comments (BUT some concrete ones)
Regards
Rudra

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:42 pm

Rudra";p="26891 wrote: According to the guy all the civilian weapons are only assembeled at the factories and the parts are made on contract basis by different small manufacturers.

This does have an element of truth to it! AFAIK they only manufacture the frame and the barrel in house, most other parts are contracted/ tendered out to many small suppliers and therefore their quality varies widely...

I believe we have a member here from the organisation in question, I'll PM him and direct him to this thread... lets see what he has to say... always better to get both sides of the story before taking a call...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Post by **cottage cheese** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:53 pm

mundaire";p="26892 wrote:
Rudra";p="26891 wrote: According to the guy all the civilian weapons are only assembeled at the factories and the parts are made on contract basis by different small manufacturers.
This does have an element of truth to it! AFAIK they only manufacture the frame and the barrel in house, most other parts are contracted/ tendered out to many small suppliers and therefore their quality varies widely...

I believe we have a member here from the organisation in question, I'll PM him and direct him to this thread... lets see what he has to say... always better to get both sides of the story before taking a call...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

One only has to browse through any national daily to come across tenders by the OFB for all kinds of stuff... including but not limited to firearms parts and components. I'd mentioned this in another thread some time back...forgot which.

Things such as batches of 315 barrels, triggers, Insas parts... stuff like that.

There shouldn't be an allowance for varying qualities. If so, it boils back to the callous inefficiency of the IOFB....and also points to something improper going on in the relationship between sub contractors and the OFB

mismisra · Post by **mismisra** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:21 pm

The point here is the S&W IOF ? It does not come loose it is sweet darling as compared to theIOC 9mm, Browning remake .The accuracy does change after 40 rds to be exact.TRY the GLOCK 18 it is wonderfull piece of design

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:05 pm

Rudra, nm,
IOF MK2 is a safe bet I guess. Last week ? Go for it, better than nothing !!!!! Accuracy depends upon the shooter . eg. I am hopeless with a GLOCK 9 mm but can manage decent groups with a .38 Ruger.
best,
RP.

opensight · Post by **opensight** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:03 am

guys,
I agree that there seem to be variations in quality of the firearms manufactured by IOF. Though all of them work, accuracy is not uniformly good. If memory serves me right ,in one of the previous threads, Mack The Knife had reported that he had trouble getting his IOF 22 rifle to group well. I have been shooting reasonable groups with my IOF 22 rifle. There have been quite a few days when I have managed sub-one inch groups with open sights at fifty meters. Will get around to posting pics of the groupings one of these days. I have put more than 6000 rounds through my IOF 22 rifle at the firing range and she is still going strong. However, before putting money on a 32 revolver which deals with higher pressures than a 22 ,I was worried about reliability and durability. You guys have been of great help in answering at least part of my doubts.

Opensight

badshah0522 · Post by **badshah0522** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:45 am

I bought 3 revolver in past .All IOF .22s.
All of them are working perfectly.From mine revolver i have fired around 700-800 round but it is still intact. I sold it later to my friend and know he is happy with it.Still 2 revolvers are there with my family.
the only problem is ejection of IOF Shell.

Is .22 pistol is also launched by IOF????I read in few posts??

Rudra · Post by **Rudra** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:24 pm

Waiting for some details from IOF 32 revolver users

Post by **dev** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:12 pm

Gurinder, Anupam, penpusher all did comment on what you asked.

Dev

Rudra · Post by **Rudra** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:08 pm

yes but none of them wrote anything about the performance of the weapon

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:21 pm

Rudra";p="26985 wrote: yes but none of them wrote anything about the performance of the weapon

By performance do you mean a comparison test on penetration levels, wound ballistics etc.? And compared to what? other (imported) guns of the same calibre? I would think the latter test would seem to be simply an academic exercise as IOF products and imported ones are in widely different price bands...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Post by **dev** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:10 pm

Rudra";p="26985 wrote: yes but none of them wrote anything about the performance of the weapon

Hey Anupam,
go buy s and w.

dev

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:15 pm

Isn't 9 mm a PB in India ? In this case is 9 mm manufactured by IOF only for service issue apart from .38 ?

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