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TSKIB SOO / KBP Russian shotguns

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:12 pm
by Sakobav
I came across this interesting Russian shotgun sites, reportedly their guns are used by Olympic shooters.

http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/sphu/hunt/hunt1.htm

A very nice write up from shotgun forum

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=124415

Please do share if anybody has any experience with them or have any pictures etc..

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:10 am
by diskaon
Shotgun with a scope?? Kind of defeats to whole shotgun thing.. no wonder they make most of their guns n 20 gauge and smaller!!

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:15 am
by shahid
In many places in the world, inclusive of USA where rifle hunting is not allowed due to thin forest close to habitation, scoped shotguns are used ( Deer barrels ) with Iron sights or scope sight to shoot deer and boar with Sabot slugs or other kind of 12 g / 20 g slugs.

Such barrels are usually rifled.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:28 pm
by The Doc
Thank you Navi for a very interesting link.

I immediately fell in love with the MTs-255 revolver shotgun.

My question is , since it has a revolver mechanism and not a closed airtight chamber wouldn't the sparks be too close to ones eyes? What kinda 12 GA ammo would it take?

best,

RP.

Re: TSKIB SOO / KBP Russian shotguns

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:46 pm
by Risala
ngrewal";p="64731 wrote:I came across this interesting Russian shotgun sites, reportedly their guns are used by Olympic shooters.

http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/sphu/hunt/hunt1.htm

A very nice write up from shotgun forum

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=124415

Please do share if anybody has any experience with them or have any pictures etc..

best
These are custom made guns,starting at USD 20 K and up :shock: it is unlikely you will find them in our neck of the woods.Putin owns a few,there afew pics of his guns on SGW.

Here one will usually find Baikals model IJ 12 & 27 in O/U and IJ 58 in SxS,another very popular Russian gun if one gets lucky would be the Toz 34 O/U

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:07 pm
by Sakobav
Sanjay

This info is for bragging rights and off course drooling and dreaming to have one additional gun in ones safe. Who knows a lucky Indian diplomat or a high ranking officer was gifted one by the ruskies. Also, I was reading Marshall Zhukov and his ilk had looted many pairs of "bespoken" guns such as Holland and Holand etc during Second world war.
Cheers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:23 pm
by diskaon
The Doc";p="64808 wrote:Thank you Navi for a very interesting link.

I immediately fell in love with the MTs-255 revolver shotgun.

My question is , since it has a revolver mechanism and not a closed airtight chamber wouldn't the sparks be too close to ones eyes? What kinda 12 GA ammo would it take?

best,

RP.
Revolver Shotgun.. PB as its a semi - automatic gun... very unfortunate..

diskaon

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:33 pm
by shahid
This revolver shotgun business seems to be a bit risky. A gun is fired too close to the face and this could prove rather dangerous.
A cartridge for this kind of gun would have to be a full metal case cartridge and then too it is not very safe.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:17 am
by The Doc
diskaon";p="64845 wrote: Revolver Shotgun.. PB as its a semi - automatic gun... very unfortunate..
No it is not a semi-auto !!

Re: TSKIB SOO / KBP Russian shotguns

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:24 am
by kanwar76
another very popular Russian gun if one gets lucky would be the Toz 34 O/Uanother very popular Russian gun if one gets lucky would be the Toz 34 O/U
I recently handled a Toz o/u and boy its like a dream gun to handle. Very handy fits like a glove and fit and finish also good. I hope owner lets us shoot some cart to feel it a bit more.. [:)]

-Inder

Re: TSKIB SOO / KBP Russian shotguns

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:23 am
by TwoRivers
Some very interesting guns. The revolver shotgun would be no more dangerous than a revolver, i.e not. Yes, you'd get a bit of blow-by, but that's well ahead of your face, unless you're the worst king of stock-crawler. When the Russians occupied Suhl in 1945, they immediately ordered Merkel shotguns for their high-ranking officers. Was told by an old German gunsmith who was there, that a Russian colonel was supervising the building of Zhukov's O/U, and twice smashed the completed gun because of some (imagined) flaw; but more likely because he could, and wanted to make an impression. Cheers.

Re: TSKIB SOO / KBP Russian shotguns

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:56 am
by Sakobav
"These are custom made guns,starting at USD 20 K and up :shock: it is unlikely you will find them in our neck of the woods.Putin owns a few,there afew pics of his guns on SGW."

Well take a guess who might have one of these bespoken guns..check the guy in the picture..

http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/kbp/ved.htm

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Re: TSKIB SOO / KBP Russian shotguns

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:33 am
by TwoRivers
Here's a look at another revolver shotgun from the beginning of the last century. Unfortunately the whole text is not accessible. I believe it used a spring, which you had to wind, to rotate and index the cylinder after a shot was taken. www.securityarms.com

Re: TSKIB SOO / KBP Russian shotguns

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:01 am
by shooter
one of my earlier posts was on russian vostok shotguns. Good guns that have won several olympic medals and world championships:

http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?p=36453