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Joseph Manton

Post by Shamsher » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:01 am

Dear All

I was seated in a discussion many a years ago, and it's been ringing on often.

A few of my fathers friends from the UK, who were professional duck hunters in the UK, were discussing the Joseph Manton.

They said the Joseph Manton had a better mechanism than the purdeys, more intricate etching & overall a more beautiful gun than the purdeys,

I have seen a Joseph Manton shotgun & feel it's being at par with purdeys

Further Joseph Manton's story goes as he was later on employed by Purdeys,

I request the gurus to kindly throw more light on this one as Joseph Manton was a very fine gun maker but not a very popular one.

Please do not confuse him as "Manton & Manton"

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Post by shahid » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:23 am

Joseph Manton was the Guru of all the famous Gun Makers of London. Holland, James Purdey, Charles Lanchaster and Boss worked for Joseph Manton.

I have a 27 inch barrel 2 3/4 inch Chamber gun by Joseph Manton. It is a boxlock but it is a very elegant and fine gun.

James Purdey on Joseph ( Joe ) Manton - But for him we would all have been a parcel of blacksmiths.

Col. Peter Hawker on JM - King of Gunmakers.

Joseph Manton opened shp in 1792, in Davis Street, Berkeley Square, London.

Joseph Manton's contribution is like a man who inherits a sound building and adds another floor to it.

When Joseph Manton died in 1835 a coetrie of his workers formed firms of their own. These were.

Thomas Boss
William Grey
William Moore
James Purdey

The list doesnt get better ? Does it ? :D

Looks are subjective. Is a monet a better painting than a Van GOugh. Depends who likes to view sunflowers and who a nude in the bedroom.

Someone wants a scroll pattern, other his girlfreinds name engraved on sideplates, which look better ? It depends on whose eyes.

If I get African Safari scenes engraved on a 12 bore sidelock is it suitable or it should be more left to the side plate of a .375 double.

Good engravers were in the service of J manton and the best of them went with James Purdey, some migrated to H & H, Boss, Charles Lanchaster, Wilkies or became independents.

As for the reliability of locks and mechanishms - there were some two thousnad if not more patents applied by these messers from 1835 to 1914 when the world went to war and the era of fine guns slowed down.

Each month saw new innovations. Mechanically all the top London and for that matter Birmingham made London guns would be more or less ar par.

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Post by Shamsher » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:36 pm

Thank you Shahid,

The shooters from the UK were right.

What a craftsman - Joseph Manton.

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Post by The Doc » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:55 pm

Shamsher,

Joseph Manton is on Wiki .


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Manton

best,

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Post by Shamsher » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:04 pm

Abhijeet

You got some words about the Joseph Manton?

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