Probably they are not many guns that offer more value for money than Miroku built guns, either Brownings/Citoris or Miroku's own brand. Some say that for the money there is no better value gun than a Miroku, only more expensive. Contestable but says something about their quality.
This is a very interesting peek into their factory. I do not remember having seen a similar article before.
I have the possibility of acquiring a 25 to 30 year old Miroku 20 gauge shotgun in good condition. Either the Miroku or a Winchester .22LR semi auto rifle.
It will be for collection because I am not a rifle shooter.
Anyone has any suggestion?
best regards
tirpassion
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:39 am
by ckkalyan
Good information...thanks Vikram
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:22 am
by timmy
Very interesting -- it's really not a huge operation at all, is it?
They seem to have melded the best of computer controlled machining with skilled by-hand craftsmen. I could very well go for one of these (even though I couldn't hit much with one).
The first pic looks like they are standing by a harpoon gun used for whaling. Maybe Miroku used to make them?
Thanks, Vikram, very interesting!
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:06 am
by Sakobav
It's amazing making sxs and o/u is art to a large extend than CNC milling thanks Vikram
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:53 am
by brihacharan
Thanks for sharing Vikram....
Very interesting & enlightening
Briha
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:03 pm
by ckkalyan
The first pic looks like they are standing by a harpoon gun used for whaling. Maybe Miroku used to make them?
Exactly timmy! Japanese caught on slightly later to firearms, but boy, did they really catch on fast and firm!?
Read / Watch James Clavell's SHOGUN - ah what an epic...I truly enjoyed re-living it!!
Shōgun is a 1975 novel by James Clavell. It is the first novel (by internal chronology) of the author's Asian Saga. A major bestseller, by 1990 the book had sold 15 million copies worldwide. Beginning in feudal Japan some months before the critical Battle of Sekigahara in 1600, Shōgun gives an account of the rise of the daimyo "Toranaga" (based upon the actual Tokugawa Ieyasu). Toranaga's rise to the Shogunate is seen through the eyes of the English sailor John Blackthorne, called Anjin ("Pilot") by the Japanese, whose fictional heroics are loosely based on the historical exploits of William Adams.
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:45 pm
by timmy
CK: I very much enjoy James Clavell novels -- they are about the only fiction I can claim to have read. I also enjoy his movies and the movies made from his books. Clavell was also a screen writer for movies, as well, and among other movies, co-wrote The Great Escape. Did you know his daughter Michaela played Penelope Smallbone in the Bond film, Octopussy?
By the way, two other movies that has those interesting Japanese matchlocks are Akira Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai and Ran.
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:14 pm
by ckkalyan
timmy wrote:CK: I very much enjoy James Clavell novels -- they are about the only fiction I can claim to have read. I also enjoy his movies and the movies made from his books. Clavell was also a screen writer for movies, as well, and among other movies, co-wrote The Great Escape. Did you know his daughter Michaela played Penelope Smallbone in the Bond film, Octopussy?
By the way, two other movies that has those interesting Japanese matchlocks are Akira Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai and Ran.
Nice info there timmy - thanks for the Ran - did not of know of it's existence. 007 - I actually did not realise that Micheala was the actress; but I have been sort of intrigued by her performance. It was sort of stiff-faced and her enunciation was a tad stilted, maybe it's just my thoughts but I think she made a great vamp, she did have her positive sides (she smiles enigmatically when she spots Bond's stealthy exit from his room and keeps her peace).
I found another beautiful movie by Akira Kurosawa After the Rain - Fascinating!
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:33 pm
by tirpassion
So, I believe that owning a miroku shotgun will be a better deal than owning a .22lr semi auto winchester 190 or m290.
I am, in any case, always fascinated by japanese workmanship.
Thanks
tirpassion
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:09 pm
by ckkalyan
Très mignon tirpassion - bien dit about the quality of Japanese workmanship!!
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:09 pm
by timmy
tirpassion wrote:So, I believe that owning a miroku shotgun will be a better deal than owning a .22lr semi auto winchester 190 or m290.
I am, in any case, always fascinated by japanese workmanship.
Thanks
tirpassion
They do make some very nice stuff, no doubt! So much of what one can buy is junk, but good Japanese gear is tough to beat!
ckkalyan wrote:Nice info there timmy - thanks for the Ran - did not of know of it's existence. 007 - I actually did not realise that Micheala was the actress; but I have been sort of intrigued by her performance. It was sort of stiff-faced and her enunciation was a tad stilted, maybe it's just my thoughts but I think she made a great vamp, she did have her positive sides (she smiles enigmatically when she spots Bond's stealthy exit from his room and keeps her peace).
I found another beautiful movie by Akira Kurosawa After the Rain - Fascinating!
CK, thanks for the tip on After the Rain, I have not seen it and need to check it out.
Ran is a beautiful movie, very colorful, and there is a very famous scene in it of burning down a fortress. I very much like the battle scenes where the cavalry and troops are outfitted in different colors. It is a sort Japanese King Lear
Michaela's Penelope Smallbone is Miss Moneypenny's assistant in Octopussy -- it's not a large part. The Swedish actress Maude Adams plays Octopussy, and she also played Scaramanga's girlfriend in Man With The Golden Gun. For some reason, she didn't play any other parts in Bond films, or much in anything else, really.
Clavell's novels were very educational for me. I was essentially a farm boy and reading those books exposed me to Asian culture in a way I had never experienced. I have used those cultural clues in a number of situations throughout my life, and they have always worked for me -- even in places like Mexico and El Salvador!
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:26 am
by Vikram
tirpassion wrote:So, I believe that owning a miroku shotgun will be a better deal than owning a .22lr semi auto winchester 190 or m290.
I am, in any case, always fascinated by japanese workmanship.
Thanks
tirpassion
Tirpassion,
Is it possible to post the model of the Miroku? Miroku made and still makes the mass-produced Browning shotguns. They also produce the same guns under their own name, which some say are better bargains. Who knows you may get hooked to Sporting Clays.Can be very addictive.
Timmy,
I watched Ran a couple of times. As you say it is very Shakespearean. Quite tragic though. Incidentally, it is the first Kurosawa's film that I saw, on HBO in fact.
Best-
Vikram
Re: Miroku Gun Factory in Japan
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:31 pm
by tirpassion
Hi Vikram,
I can not post the image right now, because I have booked the same verbally. Some paper works and time are needed before I can acquire it; might take a few months. But it is an original Miroku, not Browning and look wise, it stands out definitely.
It is a 20 gauge shotgun. Can one shoot clays with a 20 gauge?