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hi i just bought a gun , want to identify the company .
it is 12 bore side by side , side plate ( its just for the carving the mechanicm is boxlock ) with ejector .
2 3/4 chamber 30 inch barrel 18.3 chokes in both barrels
the barrel says lyon and lyon for calcutta , but thats was just the dealers , the barrel is made in germany (flusstahl krupp essen)
but all the other signs are from belgiam .
i have attached few close pics of all the proofs and marks , please help me identify my gun .
regards
imran

Congrats for your shotgun

Regards,
Ram

I may be wrong but barrels are British , see the crowns and 12-70 means 3/4 shots.

Could you please post the pictures was the entire gun?

Be a great idea, if it has damascus barrels, could they be good for regular loads to shoot ?

Lets see if any one else has seen some thing like it before - Haji

THANK U @RAMTIGER
hammerhead @I am almost sure its belgian , most of the proof marking suggest that .
lets see what others have to say .

Belgian proof-marks.

http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html

Lyon and Lyon were retailers like Army & Navy.AFAIK, they did not make any guns on their own.It could be a guild gun from Belgium.Not unusual.The barrels were not made in Germany.But the steel was.Krupp was a noted steel maker,based in the town of Essen.

Best-
Vikram

Imran,BTW, Could you please post the pictures of the entire gun? Would love to see it. Congratulations on a nice gun.

Best-
Vikram

some more pics ....

vikram @ thanks from the proof marks . i have proof mark no 1, 6,13,19,33 from the list and from date codes it suggest 1928 .

as Vikram said - it is Belgium proofed.
Lovely gun mate. - Enjoy
/S/

Hammerhead wrote:I may be wrong but barrels are British , see the crowns and 12-70 means 3/4 shots.

Could you please post the pictures was the entire gun?

Be a great idea, if it has damascus barrels, could they be good for regular loads to shoot ?

Lets see if any one else has seen some thing like it before - Haji

Vikram is totally righ. Belgian made, barrels of German steel. "FlusstahL" ie." fluid steel" rules out any possibility of it being damascus. "12/70" indicates 12 ga./70mm (2 3/4") chamber; another indication it is not British. Yes, it is perfectly fine to shoot with modern loads, though not with steel shot.

thanks for all the help guys .. is there any way i can find out the name of the manufacturer ???

It`s very difficult - often impossible - to attribute unsigned Belgian guns to a particular maker. I could suggest one or two names ...... actually four names and would be pretty sure the gun was made by one of them. I might be able to do better than that if I could handle the gun.
Is there anything written on the rib ?
It`s a quality gun however even though the engraving isn`t brilliant.
Do you know a good gunsmith who could remove the sideplates without causing damage ? Because that looks like a pinless sidelock to me.
If you manage to get the sideplates/lockplates removed check the back of the plate to see if there`s a lockmakers signature.

Congrats for own this gun.