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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by The Doc » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:20 am

peterdk wrote: do you think there is a market for high end shotguns as well as for a decent priced european quality O/U, i am talking about sidelock ejector O/U's with all the trimmings
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Post by grewal » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:44 am

peterdk wrote:do you think there is a market for high end shotguns as well as for a decent priced european quality O/U, i am talking about sidelock ejector O/U's with all the trimmings,
Peter I think it is in India only that people are paying the maximum price for a decent firearm as compared to entire world. eg half a million rupees(10000$) for a good secondhand o/u gun.

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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by peterdk » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:09 pm

when i am talking about high end, sidelock O/U ejectors, i am talking about guns that will start around 40.000,-euro and depending on engraving and other embellisments :wink: move upwards in price, i am just trying to see if the indian market is ready for such guns if they can be produced in india ( they can it is just a matter of demand)

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Post by The Doc » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:46 pm

peterdk wrote:when i am talking about high end, sidelock O/U ejectors, i am talking about guns that will start around 40.000,-euro and depending on engraving and other embellisments :wink: move upwards in price, i am just trying to see if the indian market is ready for such guns if they can be produced in india ( they can it is just a matter of demand)
Today's exchange rate is 1 euro = 61.52 INR , so the cost roughly works out to be Rs. 24.6 Lakhs for the base model of Peter's gun and one pays more if one wants the "toppings" .

Now at that price I am unsure about the number of customers Peter's high end gun would attract . :( A very few perhaps.

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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:49 pm

Peter,

I assume that you are in India.Finally some one is putting in some effort into producing some workable guns for the Indian gun buyers.Considering the junk most have been turning out it would take some effort to convince Indian buyers to spend good money on Indian made guns.Something in the price range of $1200 or about Rs 60,000/- is what might sell.

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Post by peterdk » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:58 pm

winnie and doc

the guns i am talking about is soley a private project while i assist the indian geltleman in the production on his more affordble O/U shotguns, the reason i asked were that i was asked a quote from another estemed indian gentleman about a best sidelock ejector O/U with additionel rifle barrels.
the rifle barrels were to be kept at my zambian agents gunroom to be used for the clients future safaris, so i was just wondering if there were the need for more of these guns, that is all.
the price of a best gun is allways striking, but just remember that we are talking about handwork all the way through untill the gun is a uniqe piece of art, the man hours alone is often into 1,5 years time before completion.

winnie: no, i am not in india yet, but will be on and off over the next years to come.

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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by grewal » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:39 pm

peterdk wrote: i am talking about guns that will start around 40.000,-euro and depending on engraving and other embellisments :wink: move upwards in price,
Peter after reading your post I need immediate medical attention, I was shifter to trauma centre. But now my situation is out of danger and slowly stabilizing. But next time I request you to please look at the sensitivity of the statement for the sake of people like me who have a weak heart when it come to economics and financials setbacks . Thanks to The Doc and WTP who came to my rescue :mrgreen:
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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:58 pm

peterdk wrote:the guns i am talking about is soley a private project while i assist the indian geltleman in the production on his more affordble O/U shotguns, the reason i asked were that i was asked a quote from another estemed indian gentleman about a best sidelock ejector O/U with additionel rifle barrels.the rifle barrels were to be kept at my zambian agents gunroom to be used for the clients future safaris, so i was just wondering if there were the need for more of these guns, that is all.
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You may be able to find some clients in India.However,the guns you make will have to be sold under the name of a licensed gun maker.

In India,at the moment at least,private manufacture of arms is limited to smooth bore guns.

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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by peterdk » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:07 am

the project quote were for a gentleman with a import license so it was actually a taksdale gun i quoted, and the rifled barrels were for safari use in africa.

but i was just wondering if there were a market for fine arms, but we will just have to wait and see, i think i might make one anyway for the fun of it :lol: , and remember to keep medical attention at hand for grewal as well.

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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:43 am

Peter,

If it is not too much trouble can post some photos of your work.Or can you provide a link to them.Would highly appreciate it.

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Post by eljefe » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:27 am

Peter,
A wholoe generation or more has no idea about lawful ownership and bespoke guns.
while there is a market for fine guns-I use the word fine to distinguish between some of the pre colombian artefacts which pass off as shotguns here, bespoke may be out of the question, given our prevailing g laws. Who would want to spend 10,000 Euros with an ammo quota of 25 shells per year.
Yes, if quality shotsguns are made available at prices which are 'worth it" as we Indians may put it, there will be a market for it. between 1500-3000 US$ would be a decent range.Think Zafer and those Turkish class of O/U shotty's :cheers:
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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by peterdk » Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:49 pm

winnie_the_pooh wrote:Peter,

If it is not too much trouble can post some photos of your work.Or can you provide a link to them.Would highly appreciate it.
ok winnie

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these are my new C-class prototypes, the first batch of the production guns are at the engraver at the moment. please remember that the prototypes are a bit rough around the egdes.

this is my face book page for my own label, the website will be done as soon as i have the first production guns finished.



since my main work evolves around double rifles this is what i have chosen to concentrate on, i can and do make shotguns, but only on specific order from costumer.

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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by eljefe » Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:07 pm

Peter, Not Fair! :D
my fav 450/400 at that.And those red and yellow boxes are a sight for very sore eyes
Hope you had good luck with the engravers? when do we see the finished rifles

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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:01 am

Peter,

Thanks.Look forward to seeing photos of the rifles when they are finished.Do let us know when you are in India. The fellow who engaged your services has spent his money wisely.

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Re: Indian made Under Over Guns for shooters .

Post by peterdk » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:16 am

well this would not have happened without Mr. bespoke, who i have known for quite a few years, and he made the introductions between me and the client, i am sitting writing this in the first snowstorm on our winter, and honestly i think i would prefere to be in india right about now :wink: i will keep you all informed along the way.

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