Hollis Shotguns

Post by **Grumpy** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:51 pm

Pran, I`ve got almost 5,000 bullets to make up that I wuz robbed of.......so all you lot are going to get for the next month is utter drivel - and loads of it !
So, no deal mate.
By the way, there`s nothing personal in my taking the mickey ( sorry ! ) - it`s just the noble art of ripping the p*ss by attacking any `weakness`...... and your mates laid you wide-open for the onslaught. Plus there`s the fact that you`re the baby of the group. Just too many `openings` to resist. Also you fight back.......which provides even more openings.
My sincere apologies if I`ve caused you offence.
- And anyway, it`s more fun to go back to `fighting` with my old sparring partner Mack The Knife......because he gets so ANGRY !
LOL.
John.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:01 pm

Grumpy";p="32478 wrote: Yeah, but I`m a dirty mouthed ole reprobate while you`re young, sweet and innocent.

Did you notice that I didn`t call you Mickey ?
That`s cos your dad got stroppy with me - el Jefe, the Mexican bandit, is scary........and is even harder than my hero, Mack The Knife.
Mind you, el Jefe can`t shoot for toffees - his droopy moustache keeps getting caught up in the hammer of his revolver and his big sombrero keeps blocking his eyes.
My hero would never sacrifice style for efficiency........except that he does have a taste for leather trousers and Harley Davidsons......and Ruby was telling me that his groin gets horribly chafed. She told him to rub baby oil in. So he did - not even my hero argues with Mrs Schwartzenegger.
Now she`s REALLY hard !

Excellent SOH, though mean . Pran I stay your pal , even if you dont know me . Grumps stop sniggering.

best ,

RP.

Post by **Grumpy** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:30 pm

What`s an `SOH` ?
- And I wasn`t sniggering.
Bl**dy hell Pran - now your uncle is having a go at me.
Is your family full of rough, tough, baccy chewing, brandy swilling, gun toting, kick-ass doctors ?
Sheesh. I was only having a little fun and now the whole tribe is attacking me !

Pran · Post by **Pran** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:30 am

Grumpy";p="32492 wrote: Sheesh. I was only having a little fun and now the whole tribe is attacking me

Grumps, all that's said on the forum is taken in good humour. There's no need to apologise for it.

>Excellent SOH, though mean . Pran I stay your pal , even if you dont know me .

Thanks doc. What's 'SOH'

Pran

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:35 am

Mack The Knife Bana";p="32427 wrote:Yeah, don't waste your time.

I have suspected that chappie of stamping different manufacturers name for a couple of years now.

Of course beyond reasonable doubt this is illegal business practice, but I wonder is it possible without a proper factory just at the gun shop owner's end to rub off stampings and rebrand guns ?

He could brand a belgian import of 1930s and pass it off as an english gun, quite possible.

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:25 pm

Shahid, you are assuming it is a in-house job. It is actually outsourced. 'Stamping' was the wrong term to use as I suspect they are using laser engraving and this facility is available in Bangalore.

penpusher · Post by **penpusher** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:44 pm

I do believe that this sort of deception is not new.It seems that even before 1947 guns were shipped to India and other parts of the Empire,that were made to look like those of the more famous gunmakers.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:13 pm

Grumpy";p="32492 wrote: What`s an `SOH` ?
- And I wasn`t sniggering.
Bl**dy hell Pran - now your uncle is having a go at me.
Is your family full of rough, tough, baccy chewing, brandy swilling, gun toting, kick-ass doctors ?
Sheesh. I was only having a little fun and now the whole tribe is attacking me !

Grumps/Pran

SOH means SENSE OF HUMOUR

best,

RP.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:20 pm

Grumpy";p="32492 wrote: Is your family full of rough, tough, baccy chewing, brandy swilling, gun toting, kick-ass doctors ?

Grumps,

How did you come out with such an accurate de.scription of me ???

The only thing I would like to correct is the brew. Its whisky and not brandy and I dont swill it, I just throw it down the gullet.

best,

RP

hollisfreak · Post by **hollisfreak** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:27 am

1800-Hollis Firearms was formed by Richard and Leonard Alexander Hollis in about 1800 who were Rhodesian Imigrants.
1814- John and Issac Hollis renamed the company Hollis Brothers & Co Issac was 24 and John 22 building a large assortment of weapons and exporting 1215 "Trade Guns" to the USA and for the continent.
1816- Company name changed to I Holllis & Sons (1816-1860)
Although the best known of the Hollis family he is the one with the vision to expand the company.
1845- Issac Brentnall Sneath becomes a silent partner in the company.
1861- The company name is changed again to Hollis & Sons when Richard and Charles Take Over the company.
(A) I Hollis and Sons Sales office opened in London.
The company is now making 12,000 guns per year.
1880- The company changed to Hollis/ Greener when the Hollis Brothers take over Greener Shotguns selling under both names.
1890- US tarriffs introduced on all imported firearms
1893- Clabrough Firearms sells out to Douglas Johnson to become Claybrough & Johnsonmaking 12,000 guns per year.
1914- Hollis / Greener take over Claybough/Johnson
1915- Hollis/Greener take over Bently /Playfair and open up market on the US West Coast.Offices in San Fransisco,New York,Philadelphia,Chicago.
1945- The company Hollis/Bentley/Playfair is broken up and disolved.
I have four of their double hammer sxs Shotguns.
I will post pictures if you like.

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:52 am

Ah Thanks Hollis freak - And yes Please DO post some pics

hollis3687 · Post by **hollis3687** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:39 am

My shotgun is a Hollis and sons, London, 12 gauge side by side, with the words "laminated steel" engraved on the barrel. Alfred Hollis stamped in the breech along side the patent number 509. the numbers 8454 engraved on the trigger guard and the numbers 9018 stamped underneath between the barrels. along with the number 13 stamped underneath on both barrels. I have had no success online trying to find a model or even a match to any of the above de.scriptions. This gun was passed down to me from my grandfather who did not know anymore about it than i do. I am very interested in knowing the history, range of value, and if nothing else, the model number. Thank you for any and all help that you can lend.

badshah0522 · Post by **badshah0522** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 am

HI holis 3687,,,Welcome on this forum.....I also own a very old Holis shot gun ,though it is very old but work very well.

Cheers.

hellfire_m16 · Post by **hellfire_m16** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:37 am

Welcome

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