An interesting question with no answers.

[m24]

Source: Email forward.

I don't know who the author of this letter is, but is interesting.

Dear Friend,

Last week Maj Gen Joshi called on me. He was an esteemed instructor during our Degree Course days, and EME officers would remember him as one of our finest engineers. Indeed, he spent most of his time with the DRDO. He was commissioned in Jun 1960 and was in the Eastern sector during the 1962 debacle. He has analyzed the event very systematically, and his study reveals the following :

• Pt Nehru, the architect of modern India suffered a severe stroke of depression from which he never quite recovered. He died in May 1964 at the comparatively young age of 73.
• VK Krishna Menon was removed from the post of Raksha Mantri for his incorrect assessment of the situation.
• Gen Thapar, the COAS was sacked. The careers of Lt Gen Kaul and scores of other military officers took a "U" turn.
• A few thousand soldiers died; many more were wounded and some were taken prisoners.
• The psyche of the country received a severe blow. It was considered a 'National Shame'

The question he asked me was, "Who was the Defence Secretary? And what was the punishment meted out to him?"
I have asked several friends and also surfed the Internet but I am unable to find an answer. In all probability nothing was done to him, because he had no role in this!

Gen Joshi then took this discussion a step further. He observed that during the recent attack on Mumbai, dozens of soldiers and policemen have been killed. The whole nation is shaken. Mr Shivraj Patil has lost his prestigious job. The CM of Maharashtra has been axed and several heads in the government are likely to roll. Can some one tell us as to what action has been taken against the Union Home Secretary or the Chief Secretary of Maharashtra? (Thomas tells me that they will all be "promoted" soon though he does not know why).

Having spent many years in and around the South Block, I marvel at the way our government has been structured. The Civil Servants rule the roost. In terms of promotions and status they are ahead of every one else by miles. They are central in the Pay Commission and the Cabinet Secretary is involved in every major decision making process. Yet, when things go wrong, they wash their hands off so clean that one wonders how!

A slightly closer examination reveals the secret. I have figured it out this way:

• They never do anything themselves. They always find some one else to be the head, and they know how to reduce him to be a 'figure head'. (In the Pay Commissions, they have a retired Judge). However they place themselves in a spot which has the maximum opportunity to influence matters.
• After the event, they never face the Press or the Media. Their role is amorphous.
• The senior amongst them rarely sign a letter or order. Our pension letter is signed by a Director, who is not directly recruited IAS officer. Only rarely do you find a paper signed by a Joint Secretary. Officers above that level do not sign any document.
• They have a strong association. It protects the interests of its members dutifully and diligently.

So we have our Defence headquarters in which the postings, promotions, rewards and punishments of all senior officers are controlled by the civil servants; and they also have the final say in the process of procurement of weapons and eqpt, but they are not "responsible" if things go wrong! It is authority without responsibility. (For those who may not know, a lowly officer in the MoD can have a Deputy Chief posted out, but a Service Chief can not get even a Desk Officer moved)

When Gen Joshi left, I found myself perplexed. What sort of system have we evolved? And how has it survived all these years? It is a bit like a unit in which the clerks are running the unit and the CO is so dependent on the Head Clerk that he can not move without their help!

Can some one give a cogent answer to the questions raised by Gen Joshi?

Regards

[Sakobav]

.may be following explains..In todays muddy affairs no one can point finger at any one.. ( They should run these series again the best ever)
Lying


Clear conscience


One of Maharashtra Home Secretary was in Taj She even assisted in coordinating the effort...

I would also recommend keeping this discussion sane ..God behaves in mysterious ways so does the Government and its policies..
Best

[m24]

So truly said, Lying: Something that can't be explained to a politician and a Conscience: Surely a luxury.

Well, the only thing that comes to mind is, what the character of Om Puri in a TV serial called "Kakkaji Kahin" says," Kabhi kabhi main sochta hoon, is desh ka kya hoga??"

Translation for the non-Hindi speaking: "Sometimes I wonder, what will happen to this country??"

Regards

[hamiclar01]

Were your friend and General Joshi spurred into this rumination after they collectively stumbled on a DVD box set of "Yes Minister"?

Also, I have no idea of who the defence secy at the time of the 1962 war was, but Brig Dalvi in his thesis "Himalayan Blunder" squarely blames the Nehru/Kaul/Menon nexus for first turning a blind eye to the Chinese threat, then responding to it meekly.

[m24]

Maybe, who knows.

Regards

[Sakobav]

hamiclair
Guess who was the Chief then Gen Thapar father of that famous journo Karan Thapar. It was collective failure including Chief of Intelligence Mallick guy. This debacle has been reviewed and discussed not sure what authority or role does a Defense Secretary play in all this?.It was COAS who should have stood the ground including some other Second world war veterans who rolled over to the pressure..