J&K govt issues over 2 lakh gun licences since 2009

[StampMaster]

J&K goverment has issued more than 2 hundred thousand licenses since 2009.

Source- TOI http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 349255.cms

[farook]

One of the very few places in India where civilians can Legally obtain a 9 mm pistol....

[Kittu]

many gundealers have gone to jails who sold weapns to them

[TC]

Just like to mention here... One of my All-india licences issued in 1991 says "except Jammu and kashmir" in bold

TC

[dr.jayakumar]

J&K not in india!!
dr.jk

[jashwantsinh]

It's very well in India and, but, what to write, a clear discremenation, isn't it TC? thay can easily
get an all India, we can't, and even if we get, it would be as except J&K!!!

[farook]

Just like to mention here... One of my All-india licences issued in 1991 says "except Jammu and kashmir" in bold

TC

At that point of time situation was tense in the state. Do all India licenses still mention it

[Kittu]

Just like to mention here... One of my All-india licences issued in 1991 says "except Jammu and kashmir" in bold

TC

At that point of time situation was tense in the state. Do all India licenses still mention it

now they mentions All india except j&k and north east

[farook]

Something from the Arms Act...

24 A. Prohibition as to possession of notified arms in disturbed areas, etc. –
(l) Where the Central Government is satisfied that there is extensive disturbance of public peace and tranquility or imminent danger of such disturbance in any area and that for the prevention of offences involving the use of arms in such area, it is necessary or expedient so to do, it may by notification in the Official Gazette-
(a) specify the limits of such areas;
(b) direct that before the commencement of the period specified in the notification (which period shall be a period commencing from a date not earlier than the fourth day after the date of publication of the notification in the Official Gazette), every person having in his possession in such area any arms of such description as may be specified in the notification (the arms so specified being hereafter in this section referred to as notified arms), shall deposit the same before such commencement in accordance with the provisions of Section 21 and for this purpose the possession by such person of any notified arms shall, notwithstanding anything contained in any other provision of this Act (except Section 41) or in any other law for the time being in force, as from the date of publication of such notification in the Official Gazette be deemed to have ceased to be lawful;
(c) declare that as from the commencement of, and until the expiry of, the period specified in the notification, it shall not be lawful for any person to have in his possession in such area any notified arms;
(d) authorise any such officer subordinate to the Central Government or a State Government as may be specified in the notification, -
(i) to search at any time during the period specified in the notification any person, in or passing through, or any premises in, or any animal or vessel or vehicle or other conveyance of whatever nature in or passing through, or any receptacle or other container of whatever nature, in such area if such officer has reason to believe that any notified arms are secreted by such person or in such premises or on such animal or in such vessel, vehicle or other conveyance or in such receptacle or other container such animal or in such vessel, vehicle or other conveyance or in such receptacle or other container;
(ii) to seize at any time during the period specified in the notification any notified arms in the possession of any person in such area or discovered through a search under sub-clause (i), and detain the same during the period specified in the notification.
(2) The period specified in a notification issued under sub-section (1) in respect of any area shall not, in the first instance, exceed ninety days, but the Central Government may amend such notification to extend such period from time to time by any period not exceeding ninety days at any one time if, in the opinion of that Government, there continues to be in such area such disturbance of public peace and tranquility as is referred to in sub-section (1) or imminent danger thereof and that for the prevention of offences involving the use of arms in such area it is necessary or expedient so to do.
(3) The provisions of the Code of Criminal Procedure, 1973 (2 of 1974), relating to searches and seizures shall, so far as may be, apply to any search or seizure made under sub-section (1).
(4) For the purpose of this section,-
(a) "arms" includes ammunition;
(b) where the period specified in a notification, as originally issued under sub-section (1), is extended under sub-section (2), then, in relation to such notification, references in sub-section (1) to "the period specified in the notification" shall be construed as references to the period as so extended.

[farook]

24B. Prohibition as to carrying of notified arms in or through public places in disturbed areas, etc. – (1) Where the Central Government is satisfied that there is extensive disturbance of public peace and tranquility or imminent danger of such disturbance in any area and that for the prevention of offences involving the use of arms in such area it is necessary or expedient so to do, it may, by notification in the Official Gazette,-
(a) specify the limits of such area;
(b) direct that during the period specified in the notification (which period shall be a period commencing from a date not earlier than the second day after the date of publication of the notification in the Official Gazette), no person shall carry or otherwise have in his possession any arms of such description as may be specified in the notification (the arms so specified being hereafter in this section referred to as notified arms) through or in any public place in such areas;
(c) authorize any such officer subordinate to the Central Government or State Government as may be specified in the notification, -
(i) to search at any time during the period specified in the notification any person in, or passing through, or any premises in or forming part of, or any animal or vessel or vehicle or other conveyance of whatever nature in or passing through, or any receptacle or other container of whatever nature, in any public place in such area if such officer has reason to believe that any notified arms are secreted by such person or in such premises or on such animal or in such vessel, vehicle or other conveyance or in such receptacle or other container;
(ii) to seize at any time during the period specified in the notification any notified arms being carried by or otherwise in the possession of any person, through or in a public place in such area or discovered through a search under sub-clause (i) and detain the same during the period specified in the notification.
(2) The period specified in a notification issued under sub-section (1) in respect of any area shall not, in the first instance, exceed ninety days, but the Central Government may amend such notification to extend such period from time to time by any period not exceeding ninety days at any one time if, in the opinion of that Government, there continues to be in such area such disturbance of public peace and tranquility as is referred to in sub-section (1) or imminent danger thereof and that for the prevention of offences involving the use of arms in such area it is necessary or expedient so to do.
(3) The provisions of the Code of Criminal Procedure, 1973, (2 of 1974), relating to searches and seizures shall, so far as may be, apply to any search or seizure made under sub-section (1).
(4) For the purposes of this section,-
(a) "arms" includes ammunition;
(b) "public place" means any place intended for use by, or accessible to, the public or any section of the public; and
(c) where the period specified in a notification, as originally issued under sub-section (1), is extended under sub-section (2), then, in relation to such notification, references in sub-section (1) to "the period specified in the notification" shall be construed as references to the period as so extended.]

[TC]

Guys,
At the time that I got the licence situation in Kashmir was pretty bad. These days people do get all India licences without that "except j & K" clause. I could have moved the home department and got mine rectified. But never did it. Probably never thought of taking another gun to a valley that has seen so many...

TC

[Amit357]

One of the very few places in India where civilians can Legally obtain a 9 mm pistol....

How is that ? , you can easily get 9x17/9x18,all over India legally,as far as getting 9x19 i would doubt the genuinety of Pistol firing & chambering a 9x19/9 mm Luger/Sten round available on a N.P Bore license,and as Ashok has mentioned a lot of Dealers/so called license holders are & were getting SARKARI HOSPITALITY for this facility.Best Amit

[farook]

Until 1984 a 9 mm was issued to civilians as we can obtain a NPB now. After the unfortunate assassination of the then Prime Minister and civil turmoil in the two north Indian states the HM imposed restrictions on granting of a 9*19 pistol. There have been new orders issued by the MHA that the Pb bore be granted to citizens, government officials, MP/MLAs and kith and kins of all who by virtue of their work have involved themselves in anti terrorist activities.

A Npb arms license is issued by The Commissioner of Police, Sp or DM depending upon the hierarchy of the LA. For the granting of a PB it has to be further recommended by the Commissioner and forwarded to the HM.

[Kittu]

Until 1984 a 9 mm was issued to civilians as we can obtain a NPB now. After the unfortunate assassination of the then Prime Minister and civil turmoil in the two north Indian states the HM imposed restrictions of granting of a 9*19 pistol. There have been new orders issued by the MHA that the Pb bore be granted to citizens, government officials, MP/MLAs and kith and kins of all who by virtue of their work have involved themselves in anti terrorist activities.

A Npb arms license is issued by The Commissioner of Police, Sp or DM depending upon the hierarchy of the LA. For the granting of a PB it has to be further recommended by the Commissioner and forwarded to the HM.

hi farook bhai
from where you got that.i know dm granted pb liceses to civilians.during punjab militancy era that power was shifted to mha.never heard of 9mm nato i.e 9x19 mm granted as non brohibited bore weapon to civilians.i think its insurted in arms act also but 9 mm was never a npb bore thanks

[farook]

From here ashok bhai

http://www.mha.nic.in/sites/upload_file ... 130510.pdf

To
Secretary (Home Department),
All States/ UTs.

Subject: Grant of Arms Licences for acquisition/ possession of
arms.

Sir,
The undersigned is directed to say that provisions relating to
grant of arms licences have been reviewed with a view to curb
proliferation of arms in the country and, in supersession of all existing
instructions, the following decisions have been taken:-
i) Grant of Arms License for Prohibited Bore (PB) weapons

The arms licences for acquisition of PB weapons are
considered by the Central Government in the Ministry of
Home Affairs (MHA). It has been decided that henceforth
applications for grant of PB weapon may be considered from
the following category of persons:-
a) Those persons who face grave and imminent threat to their
lives by mere reason of being residents of a geographical
area (or areas) where terrorists are most active and/or are
held to be prime ‘targets’ in the eyes of terrorists and/ or are
known to be inimical to the aims and objects of the terrorists
and as such face danger to their lives.

b) Those Government officials who by virtue of the office
occupied by them and/or the nature of duties performed by
them and/or in due discharge of their official duty have made
themselves targets in the eyes of terrorists and are
vulnerable to terrorist attack. 2 
 

c) Those MPs and MLAs including non-officials/private persons
who by virtue of having been closely and/or actively
associated with anti-terrorist programmes and policies of the
Government or by mere reason of their holding views,
political or otherwise, not to the liking of the terrorists, have
rendered themselves open to attack by the terrorists.

d) The family members/kith and kin of those who by the very
nature of their duties or performance (past or present) or
positions occupied in the Government (past or present) or
even otherwise for known/unknown reasons have been
rendered vulnerable and have come to be regarded by the
terrorists as fit targets for elimination.

Accordingly, it is requested that applications for grant of
PB weapons from the above category of persons may be
forwarded to MHA (Arms Section) along with
recommendations of the DM concerned, recommendations
of the State Govt. and police verificati