Trading on IFG - How to gain access & the rules
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:38 pm
You must apply for trading access to buy/ sell items here-
How To Gain Trading Access- You do not need to apply for access to browse the Classifieds only to sell or post a wanted advertisement.
*Please read all of this before asking questions. EVERY SINGLE WORD or you WILL fail. If you do ask a question and it is clearly covered here you will be added to a black list and will never have trading access. You will only need to apply once not every time you want to advertise.
We have decided to clamp down and try and improve the Classified Area of the forum. Recently the trading ethic has been poor, with many cases of dispute and many unhappy members. We feel this has come about due to the lack of ethic and experience that some of the newer members have as well as some long term members. To counter this, we will be enforcing a new system of access to the classifieds.
The New Application System
Signing up to this site will no longer get you direct (posting) access to the Classifieds sections. Members will have to apply to become part of the “Trading Area Access group" in order to gain (posting) access - as stated earlier everyone can automatically view the advertisements and need not apply for this. To be a successful applicant, you will need to meet following requirements:
Requirements:
1) Have been a member for a minimum of 1 month. Have at least 25 decent posts to your name with quality content (no one liner’s and not all from the day you apply). Before granting you access, the admin will check your post history and may or may not grant you access based on your performance. Your trading access may also be reviewed at any time and if it is found that after the first 25 posts you become a non contributing member towards the forums other than just being here to sell your wares your trading access may be removed.
AND
2) In your application you will need to write a properly structured paragraph making it clear that you have read our rules, that you will abide by our rules and use the templates. SMS language and slang will get your application denied. We want to at least see that you have put a little effort in. Actually citing the rules expressed on this page is the surest way to convince us that you have read them and acknowledge the requirements of using the classifieds section. Simply saying that you have read the rules is NOT satisfactory - if you have indeed read this page you will notice this sentence and our specific request for citation of at least some of the rules! This needs to be in 100 words or less. We dont want your life story make it short and sweet. Just get to the point.
*ANY APPLICATION WITH A POORLY WRITTEN REQUEST WILL BE DENIED.
Acceptance or Rejection of Your Application
Trading requests will usually be processed at least once a week. If you are a successful applicant, you should receive an email and you will be able to make new posts in the classifieds section. You will NOT be notified by PM or email as to the status of your application. We just simply do not have the time to do this. Please do not PM moderators to find out what’s going on or why your application has not been approved. They will not reply. If it wasn't approved you haven't made it clear enough that you have read and understood what is written here. Please try again.
Successful Applicants
Once you have been successfully accepted into the Trading group, you will now be expected to adhere to the Trading Area Rules. Each new thread MUST be in the correct format (see below), and must be consistent with the rules stated in this thread. Any Breach of these rules will result in your trading access being removed permanently and your user name will be suspended/ permanently banned. No questions asked. Correct formats are as follows:
For Sale Format
Subject:
The title/subject must be clear and to the point, It MUST also START with your state of residence just like this-[TN][KER][DEL] etc, ***If this is not done your ad WILL Be deleted*** Users must know exactly what they are opening if they decide to view the post.
Message Body:
ITEM: Full name and model etc.
CONDITION: Provide as much details as possible, try to give the buyer a visual description of what to expect from your words. (Bluing 80%, Stock 50%, Stock cracked near grip, stock has been repolished using varnish, chequering visible but eroded, bore 100%, bolt in good condition but slightly pitted etc)
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS: Such as negotiable, non-negotiable, will or will not consider selling parts separately.
REASON FOR SELLING: A lot of buyers will ask this so please provide a reason, even if its only to say that you need the money
EXTRA INFO: If there is any other info that you'd like to add put it here.
LOCATION: Where you live, and whether or not you are willing to do an interstate deal/ post the goods on offer within India/ restrictions on states you will post to etc
CONTACT: Via PM, email or your phone number. While we do not suggest posting your mobile number on an open forum, at the end of the day this is your choice.
PICTURES: If you don’t have pictures, wait till you click photos of from a few angles and post them here along with your advert. Any advert without clear photos of the actual goods on sale will be deleted. Photos taken from other websites/ manufacturers standard photos will NOT BE ACCEPTABLE. The photos MUST be of the item you are selling, preferably taken from a few different angles.
Example:
Subject-
[DEL] Brno .22 LR Rifle Model 1
Message body-
ITEM:
Brno .22 LR Rifle Model 1, five shot magazine with spare 10 shot magazine. Factory fitted open sights.
CONDITION:
Used, but in perfect working order. 75% of original bluing intact (never been reblued), stock has a small dent in the rear and signs of usage but no cracks or other serious damage.
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS:
INR 1,00,000/-. Face to face sale only.
REASON FOR SELLING:
Buying another rifle, so need to free up a slot on my license.
EXTRA INFO:
Was bought by me brand new in 1980, original import paperwork is still with me and license stamped by Delhi Customs.
LOCATION:
Delhi, will deal face to face only.
CONTACT:
011-5553-8921
PM
Email : xyz [at] abc [dot] com
PICTURES:
Please see following photobucket album: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Look here if you do not know how to Post Pics- http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5211
Variations on this template will not be accepted.
Copy and paste this below into your message body for the template-
Sold For Sale Posts
When your item/s have been sold please update the thread title(subject) with a SOLD. Do not delete the message Body
Example: [SOLD] Brno .22 LR Rifle Model 1
Now for the rules
#1- NO COMMERCIAL SELLERS ARE ALLOWED. Whether you are an arms dealer OR simply run a small enterprise trading in items which could be of interest to members here, please do not apply for trading access! The classified here are meant for individual members who wish to sell items surplus to their needs and NOT for businesses. If your application is accepted, and later on it turns out that this is a commercial enterprise for you - your trading access will be permanently removed. IF YOU ARE an Arms dealer/ Commercial seller/ Manufacturer etc. please feel free to create a FREE listing under the Yellow Pages section here, DO NOT advertise in the classified here OR post links back to your products/ services etc. in your signature OR under any other section on this website. If and when we have in place a policy for paid advertisements, it will be announced here and you may then choose to use that service.
#2- NO PROXY SELLERS ALLOWED. This includes selling here on behalf of a friend who is not a member/ selling on behalf of an arms dealer/ other business/ previously banned members/ members here who do not have trading access etc. If it is not your own item you have for sale, DO NOT advertise it here. If it is discovered that you are proxy selling on behalf of anyone else, your trading access will be permanently removed.
#3- DO NOT post the item more than once in 7 days; Your For Sale/Wanted Item will be automatically deleted aprox 14 days after you submit it. It is fine to Re-advertise it after 7 days is up (from the time it gets deleted). DO NOT TRY AND GET YOUR ADVERT DELETED AND THEN JUST RE-ADVERTISE THE SAME ITEM AGAIN TO GET IT TO THE TOP OF THE PAGE. THIS "WILL" GET YOU BANNED FROM THIS SITE INSTANTLY - NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
#4- You may only have one single advert in any one classifieds section. So if you have multiple items they all need to be in the one post. If it is found that you have more than one ad in any one classified section your ads will be deleted. And your classifieds access will be removed.
#5- There is to be no EOI (Expressions Of Interest) or OFFERS without a price, you're either selling it or you are not. ALL ADVERTS MUST HAVE A PRICE LISTED
#6- If you have the item advertised on Ebay/ any other website you are more than welcome to advertise it here as well but it must have a price advertised here not just a link to your ebay ad/ other website. It must not be an over inflated price - such adverts will be deleted without warning and repeat offenders will loose their trading access. Once again - any posts without pricing will be removed.
#7- You are unable to reply to threads in any of the Classifieds sections; this includes your own threads. If you wish to add to your For Sale thread, you can edit your original post. Do not try and get your original thread deleted because you want to add to it and re-post it. This will get you banned from this site.
#8- DO NOT post items for sale in any other section than the For Sale sections. This includes posts posing as innocent "price checks", if you wish to get an idea of what your firearm is worth - contact 4-5 different arms dealers in your vicinity, adding 10% to the highest price quoted by a dealer should give you an estimate of the lower end of what it's worth.
#9- If there are any legal issues arising from a sale or purchase of an item from this forum then we will hand over every piece of information to the authorities so the matter can be dealt with no exceptions. So if your item is not legal don't advertise it here. (You "MUST" also sign off on your trading application with "A Big Carving Knife" Just in the application not every time you advertise) *If this isn't done its obvious you did not read this entire post and your application will be rejected.*
Wanted Format
Subject:
Your Title/ Subject MUST include the state at the START- [DEL] [HAR] [PUN] etc. ***If you dont do this your ad WILL be deleted***
It must also include details of what you are looking for. Users must know exactly what they are opening if they decide to view the post.
Message Body
WANTED: Full name and model of the gun/ part/ accessory/ etc. you are after.
WILLING TO PAY: Let them no the price range you want to buy in.
WHERE: Tell them how far your willing to travel. Or if you are happy to pay postage.
CONTACT: Give your contact details, PM, Email or phone number.
Example
Subject-
[MAH] Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil Gun Stock Finish Kit
Message Body-
WANTED:
Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil Gun Stock Finish Kit
WILLING TO PAY:
Up to INR 1,600/-
WHERE:
Prefer Mumbai, MAH but happy to pay postage on actuals.
CONTACT:
Via PM please.
Copy and paste this below into your message body for the template-
When your item/s have been found please update the thread title (subject) with a [FOUND] Do not delete the message Body
Only one wanted ad every 14 days. If you want more than one thing it needs to be in the one ad.
If your trading access has been removed you will "NOT" get a message explaining why. It is up to you to re-read these rules and then contact webmaster [at] indiansforguns [dot] com (please do not contact me or any of the other mods via PM) and let the webmaster know what you did wrong and how you plan to fix it in the future. Only then will we consider if you will be allowed to continue trading here.
DISCLAIMER
indiansforguns.com makes no representation or warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or currency of any information or content provided on or accessible via, the indiansforguns.com site. Users must investigate for themselves the suitability, quality and condition of any item they wish to purchase. indiansforguns.com will not accept any legal liability for the information or content on, or accessible via, the indiansforguns.com site. It is your responsibility to verify any information before relying on it. You buy and sell here at your own risk. indiansforguns.com will not be held liable for any deals gone bad on this site. "Trader access status on this site does not imply that the site, its owners, or its adminstrators endorse any trader. It means only that the Trader has agreed to comply with the site's rules for formatting advertisements." Rules may be updated at any time without notice at the discretion of the moderator team.
Lastly some advice; if you are buying something from someone you don't know. Get every aspect of the purchase in detail and try to do it through a proper email address (ie: not a hotmail or yahoo account). If someone has internet access then they will have a legitimate ISP account (mtnl/ bsnl/ airtel/ hathway etc.). It would also be advisable to obtain their land line numbers and maybe even a copy of their license.
By signing up to the classifieds section, you are agreeing that you have read ALL of the above and that you agree to abide by all conditions.
It's obvious if you have not read the rules, and if you haven't and you still sign up anyway, its unlikely you will ever gain access.
*If you do not fit the requirements stated above, your application will be denied. And it could be up to a month before a new application will be considered
Think this is all too hard? It’s supposed to be! If you cannot make the effort to apply for trading access then there would be little chance of you ever abiding by these rules anyway so you may as well head over to Ebay, or some other website which isn't as concerned about it's members being short changed!
Send your applications Via e-mail to - webmaster [at] indiansforguns [dot] com
Do not PM me. Do not PM any other moderators.
How To Gain Trading Access- You do not need to apply for access to browse the Classifieds only to sell or post a wanted advertisement.
*Please read all of this before asking questions. EVERY SINGLE WORD or you WILL fail. If you do ask a question and it is clearly covered here you will be added to a black list and will never have trading access. You will only need to apply once not every time you want to advertise.
We have decided to clamp down and try and improve the Classified Area of the forum. Recently the trading ethic has been poor, with many cases of dispute and many unhappy members. We feel this has come about due to the lack of ethic and experience that some of the newer members have as well as some long term members. To counter this, we will be enforcing a new system of access to the classifieds.
The New Application System
Signing up to this site will no longer get you direct (posting) access to the Classifieds sections. Members will have to apply to become part of the “Trading Area Access group" in order to gain (posting) access - as stated earlier everyone can automatically view the advertisements and need not apply for this. To be a successful applicant, you will need to meet following requirements:
Requirements:
1) Have been a member for a minimum of 1 month. Have at least 25 decent posts to your name with quality content (no one liner’s and not all from the day you apply). Before granting you access, the admin will check your post history and may or may not grant you access based on your performance. Your trading access may also be reviewed at any time and if it is found that after the first 25 posts you become a non contributing member towards the forums other than just being here to sell your wares your trading access may be removed.
AND
2) In your application you will need to write a properly structured paragraph making it clear that you have read our rules, that you will abide by our rules and use the templates. SMS language and slang will get your application denied. We want to at least see that you have put a little effort in. Actually citing the rules expressed on this page is the surest way to convince us that you have read them and acknowledge the requirements of using the classifieds section. Simply saying that you have read the rules is NOT satisfactory - if you have indeed read this page you will notice this sentence and our specific request for citation of at least some of the rules! This needs to be in 100 words or less. We dont want your life story make it short and sweet. Just get to the point.
*ANY APPLICATION WITH A POORLY WRITTEN REQUEST WILL BE DENIED.
Acceptance or Rejection of Your Application
Trading requests will usually be processed at least once a week. If you are a successful applicant, you should receive an email and you will be able to make new posts in the classifieds section. You will NOT be notified by PM or email as to the status of your application. We just simply do not have the time to do this. Please do not PM moderators to find out what’s going on or why your application has not been approved. They will not reply. If it wasn't approved you haven't made it clear enough that you have read and understood what is written here. Please try again.
Successful Applicants
Once you have been successfully accepted into the Trading group, you will now be expected to adhere to the Trading Area Rules. Each new thread MUST be in the correct format (see below), and must be consistent with the rules stated in this thread. Any Breach of these rules will result in your trading access being removed permanently and your user name will be suspended/ permanently banned. No questions asked. Correct formats are as follows:
For Sale Format
Subject:
The title/subject must be clear and to the point, It MUST also START with your state of residence just like this-[TN][KER][DEL] etc, ***If this is not done your ad WILL Be deleted*** Users must know exactly what they are opening if they decide to view the post.
Message Body:
ITEM: Full name and model etc.
CONDITION: Provide as much details as possible, try to give the buyer a visual description of what to expect from your words. (Bluing 80%, Stock 50%, Stock cracked near grip, stock has been repolished using varnish, chequering visible but eroded, bore 100%, bolt in good condition but slightly pitted etc)
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS: Such as negotiable, non-negotiable, will or will not consider selling parts separately.
REASON FOR SELLING: A lot of buyers will ask this so please provide a reason, even if its only to say that you need the money
EXTRA INFO: If there is any other info that you'd like to add put it here.
LOCATION: Where you live, and whether or not you are willing to do an interstate deal/ post the goods on offer within India/ restrictions on states you will post to etc
CONTACT: Via PM, email or your phone number. While we do not suggest posting your mobile number on an open forum, at the end of the day this is your choice.
PICTURES: If you don’t have pictures, wait till you click photos of from a few angles and post them here along with your advert. Any advert without clear photos of the actual goods on sale will be deleted. Photos taken from other websites/ manufacturers standard photos will NOT BE ACCEPTABLE. The photos MUST be of the item you are selling, preferably taken from a few different angles.
Example:
Subject-
[DEL] Brno .22 LR Rifle Model 1
Message body-
ITEM:
Brno .22 LR Rifle Model 1, five shot magazine with spare 10 shot magazine. Factory fitted open sights.
CONDITION:
Used, but in perfect working order. 75% of original bluing intact (never been reblued), stock has a small dent in the rear and signs of usage but no cracks or other serious damage.
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS:
INR 1,00,000/-. Face to face sale only.
REASON FOR SELLING:
Buying another rifle, so need to free up a slot on my license.
EXTRA INFO:
Was bought by me brand new in 1980, original import paperwork is still with me and license stamped by Delhi Customs.
LOCATION:
Delhi, will deal face to face only.
CONTACT:
011-5553-8921
PM
Email : xyz [at] abc [dot] com
PICTURES:
Please see following photobucket album: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Look here if you do not know how to Post Pics- http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5211
Variations on this template will not be accepted.
Copy and paste this below into your message body for the template-
Code: Select all
[b]ITEM:[/b]
[b]CONDITION:[/b]
[b]PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS:[/b]
[b]REASON FOR SELLING:[/b]
[b]EXTRA INFO:[/b]
[b]LOCATION:[/b]
[b]CONTACT:[/b]
[b]PICTURES:[/b] Sold For Sale Posts
When your item/s have been sold please update the thread title(subject) with a SOLD. Do not delete the message Body
Example: [SOLD] Brno .22 LR Rifle Model 1
Now for the rules
#1- NO COMMERCIAL SELLERS ARE ALLOWED. Whether you are an arms dealer OR simply run a small enterprise trading in items which could be of interest to members here, please do not apply for trading access! The classified here are meant for individual members who wish to sell items surplus to their needs and NOT for businesses. If your application is accepted, and later on it turns out that this is a commercial enterprise for you - your trading access will be permanently removed. IF YOU ARE an Arms dealer/ Commercial seller/ Manufacturer etc. please feel free to create a FREE listing under the Yellow Pages section here, DO NOT advertise in the classified here OR post links back to your products/ services etc. in your signature OR under any other section on this website. If and when we have in place a policy for paid advertisements, it will be announced here and you may then choose to use that service.
#2- NO PROXY SELLERS ALLOWED. This includes selling here on behalf of a friend who is not a member/ selling on behalf of an arms dealer/ other business/ previously banned members/ members here who do not have trading access etc. If it is not your own item you have for sale, DO NOT advertise it here. If it is discovered that you are proxy selling on behalf of anyone else, your trading access will be permanently removed.
#3- DO NOT post the item more than once in 7 days; Your For Sale/Wanted Item will be automatically deleted aprox 14 days after you submit it. It is fine to Re-advertise it after 7 days is up (from the time it gets deleted). DO NOT TRY AND GET YOUR ADVERT DELETED AND THEN JUST RE-ADVERTISE THE SAME ITEM AGAIN TO GET IT TO THE TOP OF THE PAGE. THIS "WILL" GET YOU BANNED FROM THIS SITE INSTANTLY - NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
#4- You may only have one single advert in any one classifieds section. So if you have multiple items they all need to be in the one post. If it is found that you have more than one ad in any one classified section your ads will be deleted. And your classifieds access will be removed.
#5- There is to be no EOI (Expressions Of Interest) or OFFERS without a price, you're either selling it or you are not. ALL ADVERTS MUST HAVE A PRICE LISTED
#6- If you have the item advertised on Ebay/ any other website you are more than welcome to advertise it here as well but it must have a price advertised here not just a link to your ebay ad/ other website. It must not be an over inflated price - such adverts will be deleted without warning and repeat offenders will loose their trading access. Once again - any posts without pricing will be removed.
#7- You are unable to reply to threads in any of the Classifieds sections; this includes your own threads. If you wish to add to your For Sale thread, you can edit your original post. Do not try and get your original thread deleted because you want to add to it and re-post it. This will get you banned from this site.
#8- DO NOT post items for sale in any other section than the For Sale sections. This includes posts posing as innocent "price checks", if you wish to get an idea of what your firearm is worth - contact 4-5 different arms dealers in your vicinity, adding 10% to the highest price quoted by a dealer should give you an estimate of the lower end of what it's worth.
#9- If there are any legal issues arising from a sale or purchase of an item from this forum then we will hand over every piece of information to the authorities so the matter can be dealt with no exceptions. So if your item is not legal don't advertise it here. (You "MUST" also sign off on your trading application with "A Big Carving Knife" Just in the application not every time you advertise) *If this isn't done its obvious you did not read this entire post and your application will be rejected.*
Wanted Format
Subject:
Your Title/ Subject MUST include the state at the START- [DEL] [HAR] [PUN] etc. ***If you dont do this your ad WILL be deleted***
It must also include details of what you are looking for. Users must know exactly what they are opening if they decide to view the post.
Message Body
WANTED: Full name and model of the gun/ part/ accessory/ etc. you are after.
WILLING TO PAY: Let them no the price range you want to buy in.
WHERE: Tell them how far your willing to travel. Or if you are happy to pay postage.
CONTACT: Give your contact details, PM, Email or phone number.
Example
Subject-
[MAH] Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil Gun Stock Finish Kit
Message Body-
WANTED:
Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil Gun Stock Finish Kit
WILLING TO PAY:
Up to INR 1,600/-
WHERE:
Prefer Mumbai, MAH but happy to pay postage on actuals.
CONTACT:
Via PM please.
Copy and paste this below into your message body for the template-
Code: Select all
[b]WANTED:[/b]
[b]WILLING TO PAY:[/b]
[b]WHERE:[/b]
[b]CONTACT:[/b]Only one wanted ad every 14 days. If you want more than one thing it needs to be in the one ad.
If your trading access has been removed you will "NOT" get a message explaining why. It is up to you to re-read these rules and then contact webmaster [at] indiansforguns [dot] com (please do not contact me or any of the other mods via PM) and let the webmaster know what you did wrong and how you plan to fix it in the future. Only then will we consider if you will be allowed to continue trading here.
DISCLAIMER
indiansforguns.com makes no representation or warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or currency of any information or content provided on or accessible via, the indiansforguns.com site. Users must investigate for themselves the suitability, quality and condition of any item they wish to purchase. indiansforguns.com will not accept any legal liability for the information or content on, or accessible via, the indiansforguns.com site. It is your responsibility to verify any information before relying on it. You buy and sell here at your own risk. indiansforguns.com will not be held liable for any deals gone bad on this site. "Trader access status on this site does not imply that the site, its owners, or its adminstrators endorse any trader. It means only that the Trader has agreed to comply with the site's rules for formatting advertisements." Rules may be updated at any time without notice at the discretion of the moderator team.
Lastly some advice; if you are buying something from someone you don't know. Get every aspect of the purchase in detail and try to do it through a proper email address (ie: not a hotmail or yahoo account). If someone has internet access then they will have a legitimate ISP account (mtnl/ bsnl/ airtel/ hathway etc.). It would also be advisable to obtain their land line numbers and maybe even a copy of their license.
By signing up to the classifieds section, you are agreeing that you have read ALL of the above and that you agree to abide by all conditions.
It's obvious if you have not read the rules, and if you haven't and you still sign up anyway, its unlikely you will ever gain access.
*If you do not fit the requirements stated above, your application will be denied. And it could be up to a month before a new application will be considered
Think this is all too hard? It’s supposed to be! If you cannot make the effort to apply for trading access then there would be little chance of you ever abiding by these rules anyway so you may as well head over to Ebay, or some other website which isn't as concerned about it's members being short changed!
Send your applications Via e-mail to - webmaster [at] indiansforguns [dot] com
Do not PM me. Do not PM any other moderators.
who fleece us 
unless the public gets a bargin they feel they are cheated. 