even dead patient can be useful

[Subal das]

http://www.fullhyderabad.com/hyderabad- ... tient-4786

18th Jun, 2011: In an incident reminiscent of the dramatic opening of Chiranjeevi's Tagore, doctors at the Care Hospital in Nampally have allegedly "treated" a dead patient, thereby hoodwinking the kin of the patient.

Sobbing relatives of the patient told the media that the doctors had put him on some machines and kept claiming he would be cured. However, it was discovered today that the patient had died some time ago. It is not clear when exactly the death took place, but the family suspects he died about 3 days ago.

The patient even ran up a hefty Rs. 5 lakh bill.

3 doctors have been arrested in this regard, and the body of the patient has been shifted to the Osmania Hospital for post-mortem.

[hamiclar01]

Errr, a three day old dead body would surely start decomposing. Did they not notice the smell?

[Subal das]

Errr, a three day old dead body would surely start decomposing. Did they not notice the smell?

I'm sure they did it not for a first time, so it is not so difficult find the way how to preserve the body from too much decay for few days.

[Ace_doc]

ever heard of rigor mortis ? and postmortem lividity ? even keeping the body in a deep freezer would be tough if the kin could see the pt.

[Subal das]

sure pt can shade some light here, but treating dead patient !! it is fetched too far

for the sake of collegiality everybody keep their mouth shut, I have seen some shait believe me, but that is really innovative one.

[grewal]

I think here the patient might be kept on ventilator. And a person be kept on ventilator for quite a long time. The body does not decomposes as it is kept alive with the help of machine. Although the person is in vegetative state. It is a normal practice adopted by hospitals these days to extort more money. Hope " The Doc" can add more to this.

[hamiclar01]

Preserving dead bodies to make them look natural is a complex procedure and not something you can do easily in an ITU of all places.

Vegetative state/brain death ventilation is not "preserving dead bodies". Disconnecting patients from ventilators in brain death is not an easy affair with legalities involved, and is a convoluted process, ethically, legally and medically.

If the alleged were doing the former, kudos to them. If the latter was the scenario, it is often the family's decision to stop.

Personally, like so many so called scandals, (eg annual A+E thrashing of residents,) this seems the usual rabble rousing by dissatisfied and ignorant public who didn't like the show and want their money back. I have seen justified rage at incompetent surgeries, and ruffians smashing CT scanners and groping nurses when their leader was brought dead after an accident

[shooter]

with hamiclar.

the usual media babble. The doctors are the current punching bag for the public.
guys please think before believing such news and posting. how can anyoneE keep a 3 day old deadbody. Esp in the indian climate.
Basically its the bill that that promotes this type of reaction.
Even in this news item its not just the ethics of treating a 'dead patient' but the fact that they got a 5 lakh bill.

Dr: pupils arent reacting to light.
Relative: to kya hua.
Dr. Its brain death
Relative: inki dharkan to chal rahi hai.
Dr: but the brain dead hai.
relative: rishikesh wale chachaji kal rawana hue hain. kal tak pahuchenge. Tab tak kuch kijiye.
Dr: ok we will keep him on the ventilator
Chachaji: guruji said that ganga jal dalo muh mein aur jab tak dharkan chal rahi hai tab tak asha hai.
Dr. Dekhiye he died 3 days ago. HE is dead. he wont come alive again.
Relative: theek hai. we will tak the body.
ClerK: sir you cant till you have paid the bill.
Relative: he has been dead for 3 days so what bill. Call the police.

Media wont report such conversations.

[The Doc]

There are not enough details in the news item to ascertain what was the underlying disease and the subsequent intensive care provided .

It is not clear when exactly the death took place, but the family suspects he died about 3 days ago.

3 doctors have been arrested in this regard

Three doctors arrested just because the family "suspected" ? The honourable court of law clearly states that no doctor is to be arrested (for alleged negligence) without a proper inquiry conducted by a medical board first.

Once again there has been irresponsible "masala" reporting by the media and the already wrongly opinionated gullible public is hard to convince otherwise.

best,
Rp.

[dr.jayakumar]

i doubt anyone will treat a dead body for three days.this patient might have been in coma and on a ventillator(assissted artificial breating by a machine).once the ventillator is removed the patient dies.cost of treating a patient through ventillator is very high.there has been similiar incidents in south.i feel the fault is on either sides.

[OverUnderPump]

Relative: theek hai. we will tak the body.
ClerK: sir you cant till you have paid the bill.
Relative: he has been dead for 3 days so what bill. Call the police.
Media wont report such conversations.

Qualitative Reasoning followed by Quantitative aptitude on the part of the relative.
But then, this conversation is not sensationalistic in nature, for the media to publish it would be blasphemous, as it would take away the 'holier than thou' aura from the 'victims'.

regards

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