Indians For Guns

Hey guys..

I have recently 'come across' these guns here in lil ol Mizoram If you were in a position to choose any one of these guns which would you choose?? all under 200K



Remington semi auto 30_06



Valmet O/U


Ruger 77/22 mind you its a bolt action with the unique rotary magazine


Ruger 77 in .270 Win


Mossberg 12 gauge pump action

Hi Jonah
For me Remington 30-06 any day.
Cheers

1.Ruger
2. Mossberg
3.Valmet
4.30-06 Remington(only cuz its a semiauto)

The .270 if ammo is not a problem.


Best-
Vikram

Thanks guys I've latched on to the .270 let's see what happens..

Jonah,

By the looks of it, all these weapons belong to one individual. If so, he seems to be a pragmatic man. His choice is quite good. Although all seem to be from the '70s or near about. Your choice of the .270 is good. I too would have gone for it. I guess you might need to restore it a bit.

Good luck!

In the Indian scenario the Mossberg.

MoA,

Can you elaborate why? I had a Browning A5 but always had an extraction/ ejection problem with that one because of erratic quality of ammo.

Ruger 77/22 - there is many rifles in .22 not a problem to find some at any time, if you have to choose now, that would be not a number one option imo.

Ruger 77 in .270 Win - high velocity round, but what is barrel condition.

Remington semi auto 30_06 - how it will cycle Indian amo, if any problem arise, will you be able to find some one who can fix it.

Mossberg 12 gauge pump action will be best choice imo, very durable and reliable, reloading 12g amo no problem. barrel life span in shotgun much better compare to most rifles, even if barrel on that shotgun thin, I would go for it, and use barrel condition as bargain leverage. barrel can be replaced very easily on this shotgun.

Katana wrote:MoA,
I had a Browning A5 but always had an extraction/ ejection problem with that one because of erratic quality of ammo.

Hi katana,

Extraction problems with the A5 seems to be the most common problem in India. While Inconsistent desi ammo might contribute to the problems, I think most people don't seem to be aware of the bronze friction rings/brakes that sit around the magazine tube need to be adjusted in position in a number of permutations (i.e. before or after the barrel return spring with bevels towards front or aft...etc) Instructions may be found in plenty all over the net including perhaps browning's manuals. After some trial & error with specific types of Indian ammo, it is usually possible to 'fine tune' the A5 to function with reasonable reliability.

regards,
cc

CC,

I wrote to Browning about this problem (sometime in 2004-05). They were most helpful and very meticulously explained the working to me with blow up diagram etc., even sending me the manual, stickers, key rings etc. They even sent me details about when it was manufactured and which dealer had originally imported it into India.

Anyway, I did try to figure it out. Its quite simply designed and I could strip it completely, clean, adjust it and put it back together. However, no matter what I tried the ejection problem continued. Mainly the problem persisted with paper cases.

Sadly I had to part with it due to some family issues, not because of its working.

Subal das wrote:Ruger 77/22 - there is many rifles in .22 not a problem to find some at any time, if you have to choose now, that would be not a number one option imo.

Ruger 77 in .270 Win - high velocity round, but what is barrel condition.

Remington semi auto 30_06 - how it will cycle Indian amo, if any problem arise, will you be able to find some one who can fix it.

Mossberg 12 gauge pump action will be best choice imo, very durable and reliable, reloading 12g amo no problem. barrel life span in shotgun much better compare to most rifles, even if barrel on that shotgun thin, I would go for it, and use barrel condition as bargain leverage. barrel can be replaced very easily on this shotgun.

Other than the finish, all the weapons are in immaculate mechanical condition, I know this to be a case of well used guns by a knowing user and bearing 'honest' wear.... no pretensions of mint or NIB.

The Remington 742 is not exactly designed to be fussy. Indian KF 30-06 ammo, as I assume, would not have mutated too much in design and specs since war time....presumably the machinery was set up during WWII to supplement our requirement for 30-06 infantry weapons. So KF 30-06 could still be WWII US Milspec....That being said the 742 has quite a bit of its structure made of amluinium alloy so long term heavy usage will tire it out...but look at it in the indian scenario and our paltry ammo quotas. This 742 will last for a long time ...

also what is unfixable about a semi auto? Its not exactly rocket science and other than some very 'talented' gunsmiths (in the words of oun of our distinguished members) most problems can be fixed apart from catastrophic failure/damage...of course seeing how desperate our situation is here in India, even 'Kaaboomed' pieces can be rebuilt by some of the more enterprising (and not necessarily honest)gunsmiths into 'mint condition' guns !!!....



regards,
cc

-- Sun May 29, 2011 13:00 --

Katana wrote:CC,

I wrote to Browning about this problem (sometime in 2004-05). They were most helpful and very meticulously explained the working to me with blow up diagram etc., even sending me the manual, stickers, key rings etc. They even sent me details about when it was manufactured and which dealer had originally imported it into India.

Anyway, I did try to figure it out. Its quite simply designed and I could strip it completely, clean, adjust it and put it back together. However, no matter what I tried the ejection problem continued. Mainly the problem persisted with paper cases.

Sadly I had to part with it due to some family issues, not because of its working.

O well... pity it had to go. You know what, the suggestions worked with quite a few A5 owners I know of. I suppose it had to do with the inconsistency of desi ammo. Perhaps our newer plastic fodder would prove to be more useful ?

regards,
cc

Katana wrote:Jonah,

By the looks of it, all these weapons belong to one individual. If so, he seems to be a pragmatic man. His choice is quite good. Although all seem to be from the '70s or near about. Your choice of the .270 is good. I too would have gone for it. I guess you might need to restore it a bit.

Good luck!

Thanks Katana, you are right about the age of the guns. He brought in a firearm on each of his dozen or so jaunts abroad during his heydays as a politician..

Pity you and me can't go on a 'jaunt' no more, jonah!

me love to have all of these beauties.ruger 77/22 would be the one i'll pick.
what is this voting for jonah pach?