Indians For Guns

Hi friends,
over the recent months i have been doing a rough audit of posts and threads.
It seems like most of the posts fall into the following categories:

1)buy/sell
2)Feedback re: buy sell
3)advice about laws re: buy/sell
4)advice re: where to (places) to buy/sell

or something related to this.

At this rate our beloved forum will become 'guns for Indians' rather than IFG.
Now I'm not saying its a bad thing or a good thing; I just had a bit of time today so felt like rambling.

Please feel free to comment/ignore/criticise this post.

regards

You are very right. To spice up things, lets have the mid-season report from you.Say what? I will get the Zummer Zet report up today.Promise.


Best-
Vikram

IFG --> GFI look like logical next step to me, or at least there is some GFI

actually will be very interesting to see some of such kind of stats

what kind of question asked most frequently

number of positive answers. number of negative

most often repeated questions by new members

that may help to improve forum quite a bit.

for example knives related import questions repeated number of times and still there is no any authoritative clear picture

many sticky threads like import of air rifle by post courier rout become a garbage, where impossible to find any useful info, referring to such thread some one, is kind of mental torture.
other forums often having same problems, solution is to close old thread and start same new one.

my 2c

lets have the mid-season report from you.Say what?

I thought you were referring to the hunting season report.

I indeed am,my friend.

man i am scared of the antis.
My first and only brush with the antis in real life didnt scare me as much but the online anti attacks I cant bare.

Speaking of antis, i chancerd upon another forum for bird lovers where there was shooting conservation debate and where all antis agree with the role of shooting in conservation but debate about the blood seeking thrill of hunters.

will post the link soon.

regards

done some hunting, but never was thrilled to seek blood. the problem with the antis are this, that they have no law full hobby and no logical sense. so they want to hurt other human beings in guise of protracting wildlife. why do i say that?

have anyone heard/read/seen antis talk about how cruel the poachers are? nay not once. hence my reasoning, since they can not hurt the poachers etc who are outside the law so they hurt those how are within the law.

poachers kill animals in very cruel ways and their methods are very in humane without any concern to animals. Who suffer greatly at the hands of the poachers. as they say seeing is believing.

friends, the reason for these is that we are DEPRIVED OF THESE SIMPLE ARMS AND ACCESSORIES.thats the reson why there is so much transactions going on.eg...i tried to get a co2 pistol for my friend,the armoury in chennai said it cost rs1,00,000 .the same i had bought through our IFGian[mr .vishal] for rs 17,000.so its healthy for us,untill we get the right to import arms and ammunition as was earlier to 1983.thanks.

-- Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:16 am --

shooter wrote:man i am scared of the antis.
My first and only brush with the antis in real life didnt scare me as much but the online anti attacks I cant bare.

Speaking of antis, i chancerd upon another forum for bird lovers where there was shooting conservation debate and where all antis agree with the role of shooting in conservation but debate about the blood seeking thrill of hunters.

will post the link soon.

regards

shooter,can you be open,and tell us what the site is.can't wait to dig this antis[false media?]

shooter wrote: At this rate our beloved forum will become 'guns for Indians' rather than IFG.

Hi Shooter,

Moot point that, there are IFGians, GFIans and then the third category, which comprises 80%, these I term as the FIGians. Who are these FIGians?- those whose contributions would'nt cover a fig leaf (pun intended & insult definitely NOT INTENDED). Now having said that, the FIGians are also vital to the objective of this forum- to create a general awareness in guns and gun related topics.

The Forum does become a little 'dry' when noted and regular contributors slow down their contributions. obviously due to changing priorities in life. When I switch on my internet and go on to our forum (to get my daily dose), a quick scan of the Board index prompts me to open a thread when the author/last contributor is amongst the distinguished fellows mentioned earlier. Some of these are as follows;

Nagarifle
Shooter
Vikram
Mundaire
Mack the knife
M24
Prashantsingh
Grewal
Ngrewal
MOA
Eljefe
Z375
Amit357
Fantumfan
Rajat
GBM
CC
WTP

There are others who I have failed to mention, because they do not come to my mind..readily.. who are also great contributors.

Upon these shoulders rests the liveliness of our forum and I am thankfull to them and hope that they go on contributing regularly, thus inspiring FIGians to also contribute with a frsh and different topic other than just buy/sell related.
Best Regards

hvj1 you forgot to metion your name on the hit list for the antis

i agree that people life is changing new work or no work etc thus makes it a little difficult to post. or check in for the daily dose. like Rusty man, not heard from the fellow in tights for while. must be writing his momiers on his younger days swinging through the forest.

naga my friend, on this forum there have been several discussions between the pro and anti's with active participation from both sides. This is what, if I may use the term "provokes", members to get into a debate or start the discussion. We all have witnessed or at times been a part of it at one time or the other.

Now, I would say that active participation on both sides is what gets ball rolling. Participants on both sides are people who have knowledge, strong logic and some good sense. Each side does its best to convince and or convert the other.

The term poaching as it is recognized stands for illegal taking or hunting of plants or animals for different motives including profit, pleasure, done not in the set or legal parameters, with illegal weapons, on restricted land or done with unlawful or restricted means etc.

This said first of all (I truly mean it) all members on this forum as I know them are respected law abiding citizens and nothing on this forum is either done or discussed which can be deemed unlawful or even shady. Thus said, we all know that there are some hunters here who hunt out of India, ethically and within the confines of the law of the country they live in or are visiting. Nothing illegal is done in any case.

All discussions / debates are therefore between these hunters , people with pro and anti hunting sentiments. There are no poachers or pro poachers here. Did you ever see a pro poaching post here?

None. Therefore the discussion or debate does not come into existence.

Next question: did you ever see a post condemning illegal hunting or poaching?

Several, every now and then and no one feels that poaching is justified.

Everyone, I assume, with pro or anti hunting sentiments here is definitely against the poachers and their ways and means. There is no exception to it. The reason why there has not been such a discussion / debate, as is your complaint, is because there is no room for any such debate or discussion as everyone feels the same about it and there is no reason to just talk about it again and again. It is illegal and is a heinous crime and we all agree with it. Do you feel that the antis should post more about poaching etc? If so create a separate topic about your feelings or advice on how the anti's can hurt the poachers (assuming there are none on this forum) and I am sure members will oblige.

I hope you will be kind and re-think your statement "the problem with the antis are this, that they have no law full hobby and no logical sense. so they want to hurt other human beings in guise of protracting wildlife" and "have anyone heard/read/seen antis talk about how cruel the poachers are? nay not once. hence my reasoning, since they can not hurt the poachers etc who are outside the law so they hurt those how are within the law"

If not its fine . I am not forcing my views on you.

Do not mean to offend anyone or spark off another discussion. Thanks.

I understand that this is not really the right place for this post so please forgive me.

shooter wrote: At this rate our beloved forum will become 'guns for Indians' rather than IFG.
Now I'm not saying its a bad thing or a good thing; I just had a bit of time today so felt like rambling.

Please feel free to comment/ignore/criticise this post.

regards

A very perceptive look at the forum but I would like to state my opinion. In all sports,hobbies and recreational pastimes there is a need for equipment. Unfortunately we in India don't have too many stores/shops that cater to our passion. Not too many gun shops (read guns and ALL the accessories) nor do we have any knife shops or shops selling a WIDE range of tactical gear or camping and out door gear. Thus the sellers come in and offer our members things that would not be commonly available in the market. At this point I don't want to comment about prices but at least some products are available thus expanding our exposure. Buyers need to exercise their knowledge about these products regarding quality and costs.
All in all if the same goods were available on the open market at fair prices you would have a lot more shooters and collectors and enthusiasts. In turn more knowledge and more sharing of that knowledge. Which is what these forums are all about!!
On forums like these abroad there are a large amount of members who are active competitive/recreational shooters,hunters (where permitted), armed forces and police. This group does get the chance to actively use equipment and also share their knowledge and experiences. That ratio is very limited here in India.
I think the forum is peppered with some great members and the topics of discussion are interesting and varied. The forum also welcomes with open arms folks who also are into knives, tactical gear, flashlights and martial arts.
IFG is a great place to be.

bruno22

Rajat wrote:naga my friend, on this forum there have been several discussions between the pro and anti's with active participation from both sides

where?

The term poaching as it is recognized stands for illegal taking or hunting of plants or animals for different motives including profit, pleasure, done not in the set or legal parameters, with illegal weapons, on restricted land or done with unlawful or restricted means etc.

This said first of all (I truly mean it) all members on this forum as I know them are respected law abiding citizens and nothing on this forum is either done or discussed which can be deemed unlawful or even shady. Thus said, we all know that there are some hunters here who hunt out of India, ethically and within the confines of the law of the country they live in or are visiting. Nothing illegal is done in any case.

All discussions / debates are therefore between these hunters , people with pro and anti hunting sentiments. There are no poachers or pro poachers here. Did you ever see a pro poaching post here?

if they posted it it would get removed as unlawful activity. and if their are poachers they are remaining silent

Everyone, I assume, with pro or anti hunting sentiments here is definitely against the poachers and their ways and means. There is no exception to it. The reason why there has not been such a discussion / debate, as is your complaint, is because there is no room for any such debate or discussion as everyone feels the same about it and there is no reason to just talk about it again and again.

prove that the anti are anti poaching? who have the filed an FIR etc ?

I hope you will be kind and re-think your statement "the problem with the antis are this, that they have no law full hobby and no logical sense. so they want to hurt other human beings in guise of protracting wildlife" and "have anyone heard/read/seen antis talk about how cruel the poachers are? nay not once. hence my reasoning, since they can not hurt the poachers etc who are outside the law so they hurt those how are within the law"

i stand by my statement

Do not mean to offend anyone or spark off another discussion. Thanks.

not offended at all ole boy

Good to know a person who is indefatigably obstinate!

one technical point. forum and all user generated content delivered to users by means of software, in IFG case it is phpBB. php BB is free forum engine with very limited functions. These limits very serious indeed: no users gallery !!! in a gun forum , no users blogs , no groups , no integration with facebook , no subscription content .

not to say about historical security issues

From admin point of view - very limited configuration options. That will be huge improvement to move forum on more advanced forum engine like Vbulletin for example. It can be easy and safely done. First move on test forum, if everything functional move real forum on Vbulletin. if admin can consider giving me IFG data base, backup I can show how forum will look and function on Vbulletin.