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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by xl_target » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:15 pm

TwoRivers wrote:Nice one, XL. That was my first .22 pistol as well, also bought 1962. Friend talked me out of it, and I never replaced it with another Ruger like it. Hey, that's what I have been meaning to do.
There is something very classic about the looks and feel of that particular pistol, isn't there?
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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by ckkalyan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:32 pm

xl_target wrote:
TwoRivers wrote:Nice one, XL. That was my first .22 pistol as well, also bought 1962. Friend talked me out of it, and I never replaced it with another Ruger like it. Hey, that's what I have been meaning to do.
There is something very classic about the looks and feel of that particular pistol, isn't there?
:agree: :D
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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by Vikram » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:17 pm

brihacharan wrote:Hi XL,
Your daughter is indeed very lucky to have a loving / doting Grandpa :D .
+1
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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by TC » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:48 pm

There is something very classic about the looks and feel of that particular pistol, isn't there?
Absolutely right XL. I guess it is a particular line of design that influenced the shape of so many fixed barrel service pistols before, between and after the two great wars although internally each of them worked quite differently. Each was a classic, I feel. Amazing indeed....

The Japanese Nambu in different avatars : The two to the Right in top row and two to the Left in the bottom row

http://members.shaw.ca/tju/jpistols6
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The Lathi from Finland, (a personal favourite of mine)
http://cdn.firearmstalk.com/forums/atta ... hi_m40.jpg

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And of course the Luger P O'8.... the best of them all
http://www.p38guns.com/Luger%20Collection.jpg

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And the 'ugly duckling' Webley semi autos in 455, 38 and 32
http://s3.amazonaws.com/magnoliasoft.im ... 8678-1.jpg

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As most of you know there were more ....but I don't want members to accuse me of stealing this thread :D

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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by Vikram » Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:19 pm

Lovely pics,TC.Thank you!
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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by deep27 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:19 pm

nice and very beautiful guns......

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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by TwoRivers » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:52 pm

Lahti from Norway? That would be a rare (and unknown) one.

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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by ckkalyan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:28 pm

Lovely images TC - Thank You for sharing!! :D

I simply love the 'forward - 45 Deg - attack - aggressive - stance' of the design on these hand guns - brilliant! :lol:
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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by TC » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:12 pm

Vikram wrote:Lovely pics,TC.Thank you!
Thank you my friend. Service weapons had always been objects of immense interest (for me). Feels good when I share a bit.
deep27 wrote:nice and very beautiful guns......


Thanks Deep
ckkalyan wrote:Lovely images TC - Thank You for sharing!! :D

I simply love the 'forward - 45 Deg - attack - aggressive - stance' of the design on these hand guns - brilliant! :lol:
Thank you Dada. Interestingly, not all these weapons were marvels in engineering though. The Nambu, I have read, was notorious for jams and misfeeds in the field. The 9 mm Luger on the other hand was a sheer beauty in design with components of the pistol interlocking to each other without the need for any screw or nut or rivet. Now isn't that absolutely wonderful ! :D

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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by TC » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:30 pm

TwoRivers wrote:Lahti from Norway? That would be a rare (and unknown) one.
Two Rivers,
The Lathi is a rather less known but an extremely well built pistol designed to work flawlessly in sub-zero conditions. I made a mistake though. You got me there :D The pistol was made in Finland, not Norway. I apologise and edit the post (damn memory cells :lol: )

Here is a schematics of the Lathi

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And a brief history of the Lathi and the Husqvarna M/40 which was inspired by the Lathi but was not as well-made as the original Finnish weapon.

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/fi/lahti-l-35-e.html

Data for original Lahti L-35 pistol


Type: Single Action
Chamber: 9x19mm Luger/Parabellum
Weight unloaded: 1220 g
Length: 245 mm
Barrel length: 107 mm
Capacity: 8 rounds



The L-35 pistol had been developed by the Finnish designer Aimo Lahti and manufactured by Finnish company VKT from 1935 until 1985 or so. It was adopted as a standard sidearm for Finnish army in 1935. In 1940, Sweden purchased a license for Lahti pistol, simplified it and began production as a Husqvarna M/40 pistol. Due to simplification and poor quality of steel used in M/40, these guns tended to crack when fired 9mm "submachinegun" ammunition, and also M/40 were less reliable than original L-35s, so in the 1980s almost all M/40s were recalled from military service and replaced by older m/07 pistol (licensed Browning M1903 pistols) as an emergency feature. Later, Sweden forces adopted the Glock 17 as a standard service sidearm.

Thechically, L-35 is a recoil operted, locked breech pistol. It uses short recoiling barrel with barrel extension of rectangular cross-shape. Inside that extension the bolt is located, also of squared cross-section. Bolt and barrel extension are intrlocked by wertically movable locking lug, which is cammed out of engagement when hitting the frame after a short recoil. The L-35 is a concealed hammer fired, single action gun, that featured manual safety at the left side of the frame. On the top of the barrel extension there is a loaded chamber indicator. another intersting feature of the L-35 is a bolt accelerator, which gives to the bolt additional energy to operate in extreme cold or dirt.

The Husqvarna M/40 was diifferent from the L-35 in some respects: first, it has larger trigger guard; second, M/40 had no loaded chamber indicator; third, and most important, M/40 lacked the bolt accelerator, which lead to the decreased reliability. The backstrap of the grip of M/40 also had been cut for removable shoulder stock / holster. The M/40 pistol had been manufactured during the 1940-1946, with total of less than 100.000 pistos.

On the other hand, the original L-35 was extremely reliable and robust gun, with the only drawback of being slightly too heavy.

And another input from Wiki

Lahti L-35
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Lahti L-35
Lahti L-35-1.jpg
Type Semi-automatic pistol
Place of origin Finland
Service history
Used by Finland, Sweden
Wars World War II
Winter War
Continuation War
Production history
Designer Aimo Lahti
Designed 1935
Number built 9000 L-35 + 100 000 Pistol m/40
Specifications
Weight 1.2 kg
Length 245 mm
Barrel length 107 mm
Cartridge 9x19mm Parabellum
Muzzle velocity 1,100 ft/s (335.3 m/s)
Effective range 50 m
Feed system 8-round detachable box magazine

Lahti L-35 is a semi-automatic pistol designed by Aimo Lahti that was produced between 1935 and 1952. About 9000 pistols were made in four production series.

The weapon had a bolt accelerator to improve reliability in cold conditions or when fouled. This kind of system was rare for pistols. It also resembled the German Luger P08 pistol.

The Finnish army used the L-35 in the Winter War and the Continuation War, and it was the official Finnish service pistol until the 1980s when it was replaced by the FN HP-DA pistol. (Finnish military designation 9.00 PIST 80 / 9.00 PIST 80-91)
Pistol m/40

A simplified and somewhat less reliable version of the L-35 was built in Sweden under license and was adopted for service by the Swedish Armed Forces in 1940. The official Swedish military designation for this pistol was Pistol m/40 but it is also known as the Husqvarna m/40 after the manufacturer, Husqvarna that produced almost 100,000 of them between 1940 and 1946.

Due to poor quality steel used in manufacturing and the use of a more powerful 9 mm cartridge adopted in the 1960s (m/39B) the bolts of Pistol m/40s started to crack in the 1980s. As a temporary replacement the retired FN Model 1903 (Pistol m/07) pistols were brought back into service until the switch to the new Glock pistols was complete. The switch was done during the 1990s when the Glock 17 (Pistol 88) was adopted by the Swedish Army, and the Glock 19 (Pistol 88B) by the Swedish Air Force.

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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by TC » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:54 pm

Just remembered another service pistol with striking similarity in appearance. The Italian Glisenti made in 1910.

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/military_ ... 0_0707.jpg

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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by ckkalyan » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:57 pm

Many Thanks TC...well, I get what you are saying...some of these creations were just so endearing we usually forgave them their 'minor' drawbacks - like we did with the Enfield Bullet and the Ideal Jawa motorcycles - ICONS :D

To top it off - GOTAVAPEN = Gotta Weapon!? Perfect in the Indian Scenario, wouldn't you say TC! :lol:
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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by sa_ali » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:47 pm

this thread has turned out to be thanksgiving for every one with all those pics and knowledge on pistols. :)

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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by TC » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:52 pm

ckkalyan wrote:Many Thanks TC...well, I get what you are saying...some of these creations were just so endearing we usually forgave them their 'minor' drawbacks - like we did with the Enfield Bullet and the Ideal Jawa motorcycles - ICONS :D

To top it off - GOTAVAPEN = Gotta Weapon!? Perfect in the Indian Scenario, wouldn't you say TC! :lol:
Welcome Dada,
Yes you are right. Though handguns were and never are primary weapons in any army, thousands of soldiers across the globe must have thanked these pistols for saving their lives... or maybe, taking one when it was necessary.

Well, while in college I used to drive a fourth hand Jawa for almost a year when my father took pity and decided to offer some "monetary help" to help me buy my first second hand Rajdoot :D But I still miss the iconic Jawa and the endless task of cleaning the spark plug and blowing into the fuel hose to start the engine every now and then.

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Re: Thanksgiving

Post by xl_target » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:09 pm

The only way to conceal carry the 6.7 inch barrel beast of a 22 is the Uncle Mike's No 2 vertical shoulder rig. Nothing else worked for comfort, at least for me. Hogue still makes rubber mono grips with finger grooves but the stock panels are the best, I felt.
Oh no, I'm sure she won't be carrying this one. She has a SIG-Sauer P6 in 9mm for that.
....but I don't want members to accuse me of stealing this thread :D
Don't worry about that. This thread has turned out quite well.
I think most of us have enjoyed looking at the images that you have put up.
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