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Bloody Amazing

Post by xl_target » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:31 am

Semper Fidelis (Always Faithful) is the motto of the US Marine Corps.

In the case of Marine Aviators, they should change it to "Bloody Amazing" or something similar.

Pilots of the United States Marine Corps are apparently a very skillful bunch.
It takes a lot of time and money to train one.
It seems to pay off in spades.
They specialize in close air support of their rifle-toting brethren.

Take a look at these two videos.

In this one, the aircraft has a landing gear malfunction but the pilot manages to put his aircraft on the deck with no damage.
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In this video, a Marine aviator puts a C130 down on an aircraft carrier!
C130's are HUGE aircraft. (A KC130F tanker, is this case)
He then proceeds to take off without a Catapult assist.
He does it, not once but 21 times!!!!!
He also did 29 touch-and-go landings

I think he was showing off on that last landing :)

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Re: Bloody Amazing

Post by bennedose » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:27 am

Here is a similarly great story of a tricky landing and saved aircraft from India. The author was my cousin (he is no more)
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Histo ... aguar.html

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At the end of 95 minutes, the situation was desperate, as all attempts to lower the undercarriage had failed. The AOC who was at the flying control, in sheer desperation sent word for the HAL specialists (part of JS 120 investigation team) told them that "the aircraft has about 3 minutes of fuel left, suggest anything, even the most ridiculous thing, I will ask the pilot to try it before he ejects". One of the HAL engineers, Mr Jayamohan who had his thinking cap on, quickly came out with a solution, "advise the pilot to put OFF the battery, explaining that this would de-energise the solenoid-operated valve and the trapped fluid would then be available to operate the services. There would be no instruments, lights and radio for a short duration and aircraft may yaw a bit. Battery could be put ON after hearing the thud of the undercarriage coming down". This was precisely what the pilot was asked to do. At this stage, Palit had about 170 kgs of fuel and in terms of duration, just about 3 minutes. He carried out the drill as advised and heard the thud of the undercarriage coming down. Aircraft, which was very light at that fuel state, developed a pronounced yaw (due to small differential in wheels coming down) and Palit put the battery on. The main wheels had locked down, but the nose wheel, which was in the process of coming down, remained half cocked, as the fluid reverted back to controls once the battery was put on. The nose wheel of the Jaguar extends forward, against the airflow and thus takes a while longer. Palit had no fuel to try the procedure once more; he did a quick turn and with his experience and finely honed skill of a test pilot, landed the aircraft safely on the reciprocal runway. He held the nose up as long as he could, used the tail chute and then gently lowered it on to the runway. Aircraft came to a stop with minimum damage to the nose area. One of the engines flamed out during landing run, as the aircraft ran out of fuel.
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Post by bennedose » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:33 am

Here is another amazing Indian Air Force story - "Kempy's Nose"

KEMPY’s NOSE
(An Incredible Story Of Indiscipline : Eastern Air Force 1976. A Tale Of What Not To Do)

The dark, ominous, thunder heads had been rising from the depths of Subansary valley all
morning. The orographic winds pushed them up the slopes and the impetus helped it to climb
higher and higher till the cataclysmic thermodynamics of thunder clouds unleashed enough
energy to help them climb unrestricted to unimaginable height, hell bent on destruction around
‘Mechuka’. I was in the middle of it.

After waiting for several hours, I had got airborne from Dinjan in a MI4, on a bad weather day, to
take the Army Cdr on a recee of the Chinese border. The GOC had other preoccupations and
hence I got airborne close to 1100 hrs, something which we had been told not to do, due to bad
weather and turbulence inside the hills after 1200 hrs. The Eastern Air Force, those days, was a
different sort of IAF, much like the CIA operations in Lagos, a decade earlier, except that we did
neither gun running nor dope peddling like the CIA, we were very socially useful and productive
fellows. Most of the guys in Chabua were either the ones who had failed the promotion exams,
or were the guys on punishment posting. The guys that the IAF did not want to have around in
any self respecting squadron. Chabua was therefore the best self respecting places to be. SOPs
were made just for the pleasure of breaking the rule. Anyway, to continue my story......, that day
we went from place to place on the whim of the Army Cdr, who seemed to be enjoying himself at
my expense. He kept dilly dallying at each whistle stop and as the day went by, we got hemmed in
by the line squall while we were deep inside the hills.

Flying in bad weather was nothing new to me, in those years I was compulsively drawn to it, it
was exhilarating, the most adventurous thing that I could do at the age of 26. As usual, I dumped
collective, descended to the deck, with the MI4’s wheels touching the Subansary river, more like
driving a ‘Jonga’ than flying an airplane. I zig zagged along the river, acutely aware of a theorem
propounded by my earlier Stn Cdr (Vir Narain). I whistled the morbid tune, taught to me by a
navigator friend, it was called ‘point of no return’. The MI4 was one hell of a helicopter to fly. In
due course, we braved the weather and got out of the hills, to my recollection, around 1600 hrs
....... about 45 minutes before sunset.
That is when I heard James Palapura on the radio.

James was overhead Tezpur in a Mig 21 acting like an airborne FAC coordinating search and
rescue over Dulanmukh range. I heard arguments, between a Caribou, Chetak and James. The
sensible guys in the Caribou and Chetak were calling off the search and going home due to
impending bad weather and darkness. James was trying to order them back. I had no business to
go anywhere other than directly east, back to Chabua, and get the Army Cdr off my back. Yet,
curiosity overwhelmed me.

“James Sir”, I called on the radio. “Who punched out ?”, I asked.
“Kempy”, he said promptly, and gave me a quick rundown.
It seemed Kempy (then Flt Lt Deviah, a course mate) had punched out from a Gnat earlier that
morning over Dulanmukh after he got hit by ricochet and the engine flamed out. None saw him
punch out, none noted where the aircraft went down. The place as you guys know is thick jungles,
with crazy wild animals.

Just then my radio quit. That was not unusual. It was unusual if the radio ever worked in a MI4.
We were quite used to flying the MI4 without radio, without navigational aids of any kind,
without anything known or popular in aeronautics, all except a wing and a prayer.

I went into a tizzy, “hicum foocum”, sudden rush of shit to the brain. I was beset by a moral
dilemma. Do I pretend not to have heard about Kempy ? Do I leave him there in the jungle and go
home ? Do I rationalise that I had no business to get involved ? Do I make excuses that I had the
Army Cdr on board ? Do I make an excuse that it was going to be sun set, that the weather was
bad, that I was about 40 miles north and headed in the wrong direction ?
‘God, I didn’t even know if Kempy was dead or alive...... I said in monologue.
‘Oh God, my CO will make mice meat out of me’, I said to myself in self defence.
No .....in retrospect, I did not bring God in between and I did not consult with him either. I went
mind dead for about four minutes while I contemplated the odds. In the fifth minute, I turned
around and went back to a clearing near Passighat which I had over flown about ten minutes
earlier. I went and landed on a volley ball court next to some tents and without switching off, I
ordered the Army Cdr out. He was dumbfounded, initially loss of words. But when it came, he let
it fly at me, alternating between request, order, court marshal, pleading and jostling. Actually he
was a very fine man, a person I held in great awe. So I reasoned with him.
“Course mate down, Sir”, I said in clipped military parlance.
“He needs me”, I told him with finality.
“You are the Tiger, the army is here, and they will take care of you”, I think I told him. “Kempy is
down there, I got to go before the Tigers get to him”.
I think the Army Cdr made a request to take him along. I think I did not want to take him along
lest I endanger his life. It is possible that I left him behind out of spite, for making me wait at all
the places where we went and making me go through bad weather. I don’t remember. It is quite
possible. I was very young and impetuous.

Any way I then headed full throttle for Dulanmukh range. It was almost sun set by the time I
reached there. I had to ask someone the general direction in which Kempy went down. I went and
landed in front of the RSO’s hut and a WO ran out. He quickly pointed out the general direction
and I was off the ground in a jiffy.

The jungles reek a musty smell as the sun begins to set. I noticed it because I was at tree top
height flying with both side doors wide open. There was total green cover, thick foliage. I looked
for a fire, broken branches, silvery flash of the Gnat’s fuselage or wings, a parachute, smoke,
anything to indicate a crash site. There was nothing. I did not know where to go looking. I did
mental DR, 1/60 rule, calisthenics to try and figure out where Kempy may have crashed. Over the
whirring sound of the rotor, I had caught only snatches of what the WO had told me at the range.
He had said something about cross wind. Yes, he had said that Kempy had ejected on the cross
wind. That meant close by. James in his zealous enthusiasm had misdirected the search and
others had gone looking for Kempy far and wide and had missed him.
I flew over a large patch of open grassy space. I saw a large herd of frightened wild elephants
scattering in all directions with their tails and trunks held high.
“Kempy, where are you ?”, I shrieked over the noise of the wind and the MI4.
Suddenly I heard him. I swear I heard him. It seemed the MI4 knew where to go to find Kempy. I
swear I never flew it. It was the hand of God that held the cyclic.


I overflew a hut in another patch of grass, and I thought I saw about 50 people milling about. The
MI4 turned around on it’s own and this time I could see clearly that there was some commotion
on the ground. I closed the throttle, yanked the speed down and set down the helicopter in a
small clearing with very tall trees all around. When I switched off, the helicopter started juddering
and after the rotors stopped, I realised that I had hit a tree while landing. About 7 inches of all the
tail rotor blades had been cleanly shorn off. I also discovered to my horror that the Russians had
made the tail rotor with ply wood. But at that time I was not too worried about the tail rotor. I
ran forward to find Kempy.

Kempy was lying on a charpoy about 300 mtrs from where I had landed, where the villagers had
brought him out from the jungle. He appeared to be semi conscious, groaning with pain. He still
had his helmet on, though the mask was dangling around his chest. His nose was completely
smashed and his faced covered with blood. His nostrils were choked partially with dried mucus
and blood, still oozing plasma. He was labouring for breath through his mouth, spasms raking his
chest. I think he had been like that all day, while the search was on overhead, the villagers were
frightened to touch him.
The sun by then had set or was about to set.
I quickly got Kempy’s helmet off, poured water on his face, cleaned his nose and mouth and made
him drink some water. He seemed partially awake but he had no situational awareness or what
happened to him. It also looked as if he had suffered a compression fracture of his spine.
I knocked out the charpoy legs, loaded Kempy still on the charpoy into the MI4 and we went back
to Chabua, unmindful of the missing portion of the tail rotor, the MI4 juddering and shaking all
the way. 45 minutes later, when we landed, there was a big crowd on the tarmac, including the
Station Commander and my CO, late Jayaraman. The docs took charge of Kempy and I think he
was flown to Calcutta, never saw him afterwards, for a long time.

The CO took me by the elbow and marched me to his jeep. Never said a word. He went straight to
the bar, where Durga the ever smiling barman poured us both a large Rum with water, the
favourite drink in Chabua. There were many others too in the bar. Jayaraman, took a sip and I
think he could not control himself any more.
“I don’t know what to do with you”, he said.
“First you broke the 12 O’Clock rule”, he waved the glass in my face. My untouched glass still on
the bar counter. True to Rimcolian tradition, I always took bull shit standing at attention. In RIMC,
it was believed that attention was the only safe position to ward off predation.
“I can understand that you came out of the hills at 2 O’clock, I can forgive you if it went to 3
O’Clock. But I cannot suffer in silence if you decided to clear the hills at sun set”. His voice was
quivering with emotion. There was pin drop silence in the bar. All drinks lay untouched on the bar
counter. He took another sip.
“You got into bad weather”. He paused. “No, not just bad weather, you f***ing had to go and
penetrate a line squall and mapped the Sunasari river with your wheel to get out”. I began to
wonder where he had heard that one. Then I realised that the army may still be searching for
their Army Cdr. “I can understand if you left behind an army captain”, he said very softly. He took
another sip of Rum and water.
“I can understand if you left behind a Colonel. I can forgive you even if had left behind the GOC 2
Div”. He paused, seemingly at a loss of words. “F***ing shit bag, you went and left the Army Cdr
on a f***ing BSF picket and he is sitting on a charpoy right now”. Jaya banged his glass on the bar
counter, and lit a cigarette. Through a smoke ring, he kept staring at me.


“You went and chopped up your tail rotor, and had the audacity to fly it right back to Chabua”,
he said softly. I thought I could make out a note of admiration in his voice.
“Sir”, I said pleasantly. “I shall go and pick up the Army Cdr first thing tomorrow morning”.
Jaya was my best friend, my guru, my only mentor, my only benefactor in all my years in uniform.
“You will do nothing of the sort”, he roared like a lion. “I shall pick up the Army Cdr myself”, he
said. “You”.....he paused for effect. “You are f***ing going on permanent detachment to
Chakabama”. He said with finality. Chakabama, a helipad in the middle of nowhere in Nagaland
was the loneliest place those days, detachment in Chakabama was akin to solitary confinement.

“But for now, Barman.....” he commanded, looking for Durga. “The drink will be on the house, put
it all on Kartoos, he will pay for the drinks tonight”.
He then raised his glass, like a formal dining in night, “For now, let us drink to Kempy’s nose”.
“To Kempy’s nose”, we replied in unison, drowning the glass of large Rum and water in one single
bottoms up. That night, we did bottoms up again and again, each time toasting to Kempy’s nose.
My bar book was closed that night, I had exceeded Rs 75, the bar book limit.
Considering that Rum cost Rs 3.50 a bottle, and water cost nothing, we drank around 22 bottles
of Rum that night, all towards Kempy’s nose. Assuming that there were around 28 of us that night
at the bar, including the Gnat guys on detachment at Chabua, that was around 10 large pegs
each, all for good cause, Kempy’s nose. May be we all had one peg each and quite possible that
Jagga Barar drank the extra 28 pegs. I think it was one of those nights when Jagga did not count
the pegs using match sticks, lined up on the bar counter, one stick per peg. I think he lost count,
like Counta Barar, who never counted.

Next morning I was packed off to Chakabama in the dicky of a MI4, and I am told I kept saying “To
Kempy’s Nose” all the way from Chabua to Chakabama, rather silly of me. I stayed there for three
whole months before Jaya relented and brought me back.

Kempy now has a wonderful nose. Makes him very handsome and dignified. Every bit like his
illustrious martial predecessors from Koorg. I cannot take the credit, it was the Docs at Calcutta
who made Kempy’s nose look Koorgi, handsome and accomplished. Me, I take the credit only for
the incredible act of closing my bar book in one night, cheering for Kempy’s nose :)

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Re: Bloody Amazing

Post by xl_target » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:54 am

Great stories,Bennedose.
I enjoyed them tremendously.
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Re: Bloody Amazing

Post by nbk3y7k » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:41 pm

Interesting view, specially the one in which the pilot lands the aircraft without the landing gears. I am sure our IAF folks are trained too to handle such difficult situations.

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Post by timmy » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:45 pm

The landing of the C130 on the Forrestal was a huge deal! As you can see from the account I quote below, the wing of the C130 misses the ship's island by 15 feet! That's a lot of plane to be piloting into such a fine situation. However, Lt. Flatley was no ordinary fellow: He got the Distinguished Flying Cross for this feat and retired as a Rear Admiral. Flately's father was also a famous person in naval aviation. He was one of the pioneers of carrier fighter tactics, along with John Thatch and Butch O'Hare (the airport in Chicago is named after O'Hare) who developed fighter tactics at the beginning of WW2, that allowed the F4F Wildcat to successfully counter the Japanese Zero. Flatley Jr. Retired as a Vice Admiral with two Distinguished Flying Crosses.

The Forrestal was the US Navy's first "super carrier." As a little kid, I remember CV 59 from newsreels and TV shows as "the biggest and most powerful." The Forrestal was the first aircraft carrier to exceed the WW2 Japanese Shinano in size. Forrestal and her 3 sisters have long been made into razor blades.
When Lt. James H. Flatley III was told about his new assignment, he thought somebody was pulling his leg. “Operate a C-130 off an aircraft carrier? Somebody’s got to be kidding,” he said.

When one reviews the encyclopedic range of accomplishments by the C-130 Hercules and its valiant aircrews over the years, surely one of the most astounding took place in October 1963 when the U.S. Navy decided to try to land a Hercules on an aircraft carrier. Was it possible? Who would believe that the big, four-engine C-130 with its bulky fuselage and 132-foot wing span could land on the deck of a carrier?

Not only was it possible, it was done in moderately rough seas 500 miles out in the North Atlantic off the coast of Boston. In so doing, the airplane became the largest and heaviest aircraft to ever land on an aircraft carrier, a record that stands to this day.

When Lt. James H. Flatley III was told about his new assignment, he thought somebody was pulling his leg. “Operate a C-130 off an aircraft carrier? Somebody’s got to be kidding,” he said. But they weren’t kidding. In fact, the Chief of Naval Operations himself had ordered a feasibility study on operating the big propjet aboard the Norfolk-based U.S.S. Forrestal (CVA-59). The Navy was trying to find out whether they could use the Hercules as a “Super COD” – a “Carrier Onboard Delivery” aircraft. The airplane then used for such tasks was the Grumman C-1 Trader, a twin piston-engine bird with a limited payload capacity and 300-mile range. If an aircraft carrier is operating in mid-ocean, it has no “onboard delivery” system to fall back on and must come nearer land before taking aboard even urgently needed items. The Hercules was stable and reliable, with a long cruising range and capable of carrying large payloads.

The aircraft, a KC-130F refueler transport (BuNo 149798), on loan from the U.S. Marines, was delivered on 8 October. Lockheed’s only modifications to the original plane included installing a smaller nose-landing gear orifice, an improved anti-skid braking system, and removal of the underwing refueling pods. “The big worry was whether we could meet the maximum sink rate of nine feet per second,” Flatley said. As it turned out, the Navy was amazed to find they were able to better this mark by a substantial margin.

In addition to Flatley, the crew consisted of Lt.Cmdr. W.W. Stovall, copilot; ADR-1 E.F. Brennan, flight engineer; and Lockheed engineering flight test pilot Ted H. Limmer, Jr. The initial sea-born landings on 30 October 1963 were made into a 40-knot wind. Altogether, the crew successfully negotiated 29 touch-and-go landings, 21 unarrested full-stop landings, and 21 unassisted takeoffs at gross weights of 85,000 pounds up to 121,000 pounds. At 85,000 pounds, the KC-130F came to a complete stop within 267 feet, about twice the aircraft’s wing span! The Navy was delighted to discover that even with a maximum payload, the plane used only 745 feet for takeoff and 460 feet for landing roll. The short landing roll resulted from close coordination between Flatley and Jerry Daugherty, the carrier’s landing signal officer. Daugherty, later to become a captain and assigned to the Naval Air Systems Command, gave Flatley an engine “chop” while still three or four feet off the deck.

Lockheed’s Ted Limmer, who checked out fighter pilot Flatley in the C-130, stayed on for some of the initial touch-and-go and full-stop landings. “The last landing I participated in, we touched down about 150 feet from the end, stopped in 270 feet more and launched from that position, using what was left of the deck. We still had a couple hundred feet left when we lifted off. Admiral Brown was flabbergasted.”

The plane’s wingspan cleared the Forrestal’s flight deck “island” control tower by just under 15 feet as the plane roared down the deck on a specially painted line. Lockheed’s chief engineer, Art E. Flock was aboard to observe the testing. “The sea was pretty big that day. I was up on the captain’s bridge. I watched a man on the ship’s bow as that bow must have gone up and down 30 feet.” The speed of the shop was increased 10 knots to reduce yaw motion and to reduce wind direction. Thus, when the plane landed, it had a 40 to 50 knot wind on the nose. “That airplane stopped right opposite the captain’s bridge,” recalled Flock. “There was cheering and laughing. There on the side of the fuselage, a big sign had been painted on that said, “LOOK MA, NO HOOK.”

From the accumulated test data, the Navy concluded that with the C-130 Hercules, it would be possible to lift 25,000 pounds of cargo 2,500 miles and land it on a carrier. Even so, the idea was considered a bit too risky for the C-130 and the Navy elected to use a smaller COD aircraft. For his effort, the Navy awarded Flatley the Distinguished Flying Cross.
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Re: Bloody Amazing

Post by ckkalyan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:44 pm

Wow - amazing Biggles stories xl_target, bennedose, timmy - truly exhilarating!

I recall the recent tele-chat I had with xl_target about bharat-rakshak!! There are some truly hair-raising adventures to be found there!

My dad told me story about a pilot who buzzed over his girlfriend's house to get her attention and then had to land blind, after getting a faceful of windshield glass. Perfect landing - no other damage to the aircraft except the windscreen. The pilot had enthusiastically flown into some low-strung cables/wires. My dad's tone was admiring, yet lamenting the hours he had to spend on picking out shards of glass from the plucky young fellow's face, neck and upper body. :roll:

Yeah, and so it was amazing xl_target !

For Marine Aviators - Bloody Amazing = 'cruentus prodigiosus' :lol:
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Re: Bloody Amazing

Post by Amarpreet » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:48 pm

I loved the " Look ma, no hook" on the C130.

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