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The legal aspects of owning, shooting, importing arms/ ammo and other related legal aspects as well as any other legal queries. Please note: This INCLUDES all arms licensing issues/ queries!
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Please sign change.org petition and share far and wide
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mundaire » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:44 pm
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Humble request to share as far and wide as possible.
Regards,
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While petitions can help raise awareness, they don’t always result in immediate, tangible change. To drive significant impact, consider engaging in...
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Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:10 pm
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Info regarding Arms Rules 2015 - Message from NAGRI
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mundaire » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:38 pm
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Important information regarding Arms Rules 2015
Dear Friends,
We are writing to solicit your support in ensuring that the upcoming the ARMS RULES...
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This strategy could effectively amplify our voice and potentially create meaningful change. By utilizing digital platforms and social media, we can...
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Last post by Josephroy
Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:25 pm
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Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:27 pm
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Expected code of conduct - MODIFIED
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mundaire » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:27 pm
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Hi All,
Based on feedback from the membership, as well as much deliberations amongst the moderators here, we have decided to make some (rather...
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I have posted a few times, but no proper introduction. So, I am going to do that now with a set of pictures to boot! :)
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Last post by caracass77
Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:25 pm
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Can you use a gun to protect your property?
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Skyman » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:06 pm
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Hello,
Was in a situation today when an area under dispute was claimed by one party as his and he refused to listen to the fact that it was...
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Hello Friends,
Let me clarify- I do not own a gun.And i won't be caught dead pulling a piece to prove a point.
Timmy, bending over new fish is an...
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Last post by Skyman
Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:37 pm
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Look what the postie brought my friend.
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Mack The Knife » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:52 am
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A couple of days back IFG member, Deepak Mishra, took receipt of a parcel that many of us have dreamed about....an air-rifle via post!...
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Pardon me in advance...But was it not so that any member of a recognized rifle association can import air rifles without paying customs duty. It...
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Last post by nitinsoni
Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:43 pm
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Wild Animal trophies
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akayar » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:50 am
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I have in my possession some wild life trophies. Tiger Heads and Tiger skins. These were shot when Big Game Hunting was allowed. These have been...
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I am ready to own them if u gift me
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Last post by thomkola
Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:47 pm
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NEED IMMEDIATE GUIDANCE & HELP!!!!!!!!
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knifejunkie » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:22 pm
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Just this evening i posted that i had a SOG fusion fixation dagger & ka-bar zombie killer knife coming to me but after that i called FedEx and they...
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Don't panic.
Ask them for a written challan, or intimidation . After all, it is only after you have been officially notified that you will know what...
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Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:56 am
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Last post by Katana
Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:31 am
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arms licenses cancelled in Udaipur
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lakecity_shooter » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:18 pm
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Saw this article in 19th july's Rajathan patrika . Thought i should share this on the forum ! :o
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How true is the rumour that after the Sriganganagar scam the licensing in rajasthan became much strict comparing old days ?
The babus do all the...
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Last post by lakecity_shooter
Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:27 pm
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Void for vagueness
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goodboy_mentor » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:38 pm
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After posting this post at discussing the use of the word use in Arms Act 1959, I was searching related judgements.
According to a five judge bench...
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No doubt use means shoot but it hardly makes any difference to the vagueness in law.
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Last post by goodboy_mentor
Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:39 pm
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When threatened, what level of response is "Appropriate" ?
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Skyman » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:34 pm
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Hello,
Not meaning to drag already discussed topics, but the recent spate of blatant crimes has me on edge.What level of response to threats is...
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Xl_target:
Heres a thought. If a guy is rushing at you from 21 feet away and will reach you in 1.5 seconds, why cant you turn and run away?
I agree...
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Last post by Safarigent
Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:30 pm
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Inherit firearms (but overseas)
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Thigga » Sat May 19, 2012 7:19 am
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Hello Everyone, i have been trying to find some information and will highly appreciate if someone can guide me into the right direction.
My father...
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Thigga,
Go through the forum, search in legal section, there is a procedure for you to own these weapons and own them purely on heredity value...
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Last post by Georgian21
Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:58 am
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Addition of weapons fracas
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Safarigent » Mon May 28, 2012 7:57 pm
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I have a sorry tale to tell you all.
I had taken part in the recently concluded big bore mavalankars and came 16th in the 300 m prone.
Went on to the...
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Good news sir ,all the very best.
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Last post by .338 lapua
Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:52 pm
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A question on Blanks
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eternalme » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:15 am
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Guys,
I see so many Blanks offered for sale on sale forum here for 40-45 k. where as the real price in us is anything between 150-200 US$.
We are...
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Hi,I am not sure about it but I have definitely seen some blank firing guns in Mumbai,and one of my friend was interested in buying it so i called up...
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Last post by .338 lapua
Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:05 pm
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carrying pellets in checked baggage on domestic flights
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fantumfan2003 » Thu May 20, 2010 1:08 pm
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Any tips on carrying .177 pellets in checked baggage on domestic flights ? Want to carry some from Delhi to Mumbai. I cannot choose what airline I...
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What inder has said is pretty much it. Read the notice this time for Spice Jet. you can carry it in your baggage but you must inform them. Best would...
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Last post by dev
Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:44 pm
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Can I carry rifle ammo in train?
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Kumarnishith » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:01 am
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Hi friends,
Just wanted to seek an advice, and am really sorry if it's a stupid question :roll: I have a NPB Rifle licence, issued from Jharkhand &...
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The dealers in Lucknow will not sell you ammunition on a licence valid in the State of Jharkhand only.
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Last post by miroflex
Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:36 am
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Buying online airgun is legal or illegal?
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sports_shooting » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:45 am
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Is this illegal in India to buy and keep airguns online from global sites?
I wanted to buy this-
If it is not illegal, then do I have to get a...
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There is plenty of information on the forums about what you are looking for. Would be nice if you would search before you directly ask for answers....
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Last post by a__v
Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:45 am
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About air pistol & rifle manufacturing licence.
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Gursarvinder Singh » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:02 pm
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Hello friends!
I was reading, reading & reading this site for all these days for long.
I commercially want to make international quality air pistols...
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Dear,
The matter is sub-judicial and pending in Supreme Court, when the current units are in coma what i can suggest, let us hope for better. The...
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Last post by girrish sharma
Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:53 pm
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Import Procedure - for renown shooters
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pranjal87 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:43 pm
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Step 0) Become a Renowned Shot
Step1) Get an Arms Licence
Step 2) Get an Invoice
Step 3) Apply at NRAI New Delhi for Import permit
Step 4) Fund...
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The DGCA form for air transfer of Arms and Ammunition form is available at
Take print out (be green go for Duplex printing) of the links found at...
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Last post by pranjal87
Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:43 am
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Wildlife Protection Act of 1972 vs Arms act 1959
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renjith747 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:18 pm
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Wildlife Protection Act of 1972
Under Article 34 of WPA of 1972, sub-section 3 states that no new licences under the Arms Act, 1959 (54 of 1959)...
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Yes it is not only contradictory but unconstitutional. Constitution itself is a bunch of contradictions and complications to create confusion, the...
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Last post by goodboy_mentor
Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:39 am
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Having similar type of firearms
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thebrowningeffect » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:02 am
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Dear IFGians,
I have heard that an Indian citizen can have three arm licenses on his name. Wondering if one can have similar type of arms on his...
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Hi, I have the same as Sahil.
TC,As for the fourth firearm, it has to be a .22 rifle as mentioned in the Arms Law, and not pistol or revolver.How the...
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Last post by Anand
Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:59 pm
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Police Verification within 15 days in Himachal Pradesh
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nasada » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:14 pm
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Himachal Pradesh Public Service Act 2011 Notification Dated 29-02-2012
PSGA2012_A1b police.pdf
Time limit for Arms Licence Police Verification 15...
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Himachal Pradesh Public Service Guarantee Act 2011
PSGBill2011_A1b.pdf
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Last post by nasada
Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:24 pm
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Where do "they" get "it"???
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amitkj » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:15 pm
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We get to see an exact replica of Barrett M9 and COLT1911 in many TV shows like CID, CRIME PATROL etc and many other tv serials and various hindi...
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Barrett & Beretta are two different companies - both engaged in the manufacture of firearms & both supply arms to the US military. See & :)
Cheers!...
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Last post by BowMan
Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:34 pm
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Headache for Arms Renewals
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doctor » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:39 pm
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Theres a new circular in town that states that for arms renewal one has to obtain a NOC from a police station in which a persons resides . The NOC...
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the news is that this new circular bugged many with high contacts,a new circular was issued which states that it is the responsibility of the police...
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Last post by dr.jayakumar
Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:01 pm
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Dog during TR
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archer » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:27 pm
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Hi All,
What are the rules to transfer a Dog on TR to India. I am considering if I should get one, I am looking at moving back to India in about 2...
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Before bringing it on TR you have to owe it for a year and you should have the purchase receipts documented in your name. Plus you should prove that...
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Last post by Bhargav
Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:53 pm
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Anyone with three or four licenses share your experiance???
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surajshuresh » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:16 pm
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Hi guys did not find much info on this topic. So i though it would be helpful for people to know what went in to get three or more i.e 4th .22lr...
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Hi thanks for translation rraju2805... perfectionist1 i can understand so only i made this thread so we can get to know what circus these people who...
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Last post by surajshuresh
Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:18 pm
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how many can you own???
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surajshuresh » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:09 pm
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Hi guys just a small clarification. All this so confusing. I know you can get maximum of 3 licenses but how many guns can you own. Imagine you have...
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Thank you TC for the reply...
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Last post by surajshuresh
Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:38 pm
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All india Validity--Before or After purchase of weapon
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sainikji » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:15 pm
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Whether one should apply for All India Validity before purchase of weapons or after purchase of weapons?
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On the basis of inputs, What I am able to understand is :
1. Confusion still prevails as to whether the AIV is w.r.t. Arms Licence or Individual...
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Last post by Risala
Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:02 pm
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Status Update | Pyramid Air | Pellet Import
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gverma » Sun May 20, 2012 1:47 am
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Hi
This week I had imported around 10 tins of RWS from pyramid air.
I am glad to tell that the said goods arived in good condition to me.
The...
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I have received my pellets and I did not pay any custom duty, so importing pellets are duty free
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Last post by I'am Gladiator
Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:53 pm
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Transfer and sale of imported firearms
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chitapure » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:08 am
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New Delhi: Transfer and sale of imported firearms have been made easy with the Directorate General of Foreign Trade (DGFT) partly relinquishing its...
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The DGFT notification regarding sale of firearms imported by individuals is a welcome move. It will now encourage more returning NRIs to bring in...
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Last post by indiaone
Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:28 pm
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Making air rifles as hobby lands trader in jail for life
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arjunsrv » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:05 pm
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Making air rifles as hobby lands trader in jail for life ( malaysia)
By NURBAITI HAMDAN
SHAH ALAM: A 45-year-old trader has been jailed for life...
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Three of Abdul Wahab's 'customers' testified in court that the weapons were used to hunt jungle fowl (ayam hutan) as a hobby.
Next thing you know...
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Last post by xl_target
Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:35 pm
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legal possibility for arms import?
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striker » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:34 pm
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Dear Moderators and Friends
Indian Arms law admits civilians to have np bore arms for the personal safety and shooting sports ,due to lack of...
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Why can they write laws in layman language ?
If they did that then they will not be able to get away with the things they are able to get away with...
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Last post by spin_drift
Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:23 pm
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Law pertaining to the manufacture of airguns question
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by mehulkamdar » Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:22 am
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This is to revive a proposal that I had some time ago and discussed with some good friends on this forum though offline. I guess penpusher would be...
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So, Dear Friends,
Following is the outcome of this thread:-
1, If Mr Mehul who started this thread has any concrete info or documents for...
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Last post by Gursarvinder Singh
Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:28 pm
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Applying for .22
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tiwariarrun » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:17 pm
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Folks, I am applying for a .22 lic. I have also decided which rifle I would buy once my lic thing is through. IOF .22 sporting rifle. Getting my docs...
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Folks, I am applying for a .22 lic. I have also decided which rifle I would buy once my lic thing is through. IOF .22 sporting rifle. It's been more...
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Last post by shadow
Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:15 pm
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gun licence for NRI
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kashif13 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:22 am
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Hello,
I am having a NRI status but would like to get at pistol licence in India(kanpur). Would like to know if I am eligible to get a licence.......
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Of course yes it is supposed to be renewed.
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Last post by goodboy_mentor
Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:46 pm
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how to transfer gun license
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chandrashekhar » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:13 pm
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sir my father has a sbbl license and it was expired at 2003 and right now gun is surredered to police.Last month my father was passedaway.Now i want...
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1. It appears the gun was deposited under Rule 46 of Arms Rules 1962.
2. I do not think arms licenses are transferable. Apply for arms license in...
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Last post by goodboy_mentor
Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:53 pm
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''Arms Licence-Inventing Objections''
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nasada » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:13 pm
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It seems that all administrators are doing is inventing objections for choking applications of arms licence on verbal instructions of higher...
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Sir nasada if police has already submitted its positive report, then where is the need or question of asking police again under Section 14(b)ii of...
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Last post by goodboy_mentor
Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:52 pm
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Filing an RTI Inquiry
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Safarigent » Thu May 31, 2012 1:44 pm
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I am planning on filing an rti inquiry to know the following:
1. Are delhi police following criteria of arms act 1959 and arms rule 1962 for addition...
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Please provide total number of violent crimes done in last decade in Delhi State.
Out of the total number of violent crimes done in last decade in...
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Last post by goodboy_mentor
Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:26 pm
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private gun manufacturers
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hhchoudhary » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:33 pm
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Hello brothers hear i am placing my opinion is that the iof is not able to delivered the requirement in time and there quality also is not proper as...
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henry-co,
The Home Ministry is the one that rejects any manufacture of small arms by a private manufacturer.They cite possible pilferage of arms to...
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Last post by spin_drift
Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:05 am
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Miscellaneous Remarks on Arms License
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AgentDoubleS » Sun May 27, 2012 4:11 pm
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All,
I recently got an arms license issued in Delhi- post appealing to the LG. It is for NPB Rifle. I had applied under the sports category and...
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Once I hired a lawyer, he took a week to submit the appeal, the date for the hearing was a month and a half after and another month and a half to get...
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Last post by nm
Tue May 29, 2012 9:50 pm
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All India Validity
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Shyam » Fri May 25, 2012 2:48 pm
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I have a pistol and revolver licence with a validity marked All India issued by the collector in Jodhpur, Rajasthan when I retired from the armed...
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Thank you again - I follow what you have said.
The license is clearly marked with All India validity - the clerk is asking me to take a letter to...
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Last post by Shyam
Mon May 28, 2012 7:51 am
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Establishing New Shooting Club
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kushalchaudhary » Tue May 22, 2012 11:07 am
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Dear Members
I want to establish a new Shooting Club in Punjab. I have enough land. Please help in know the follwing:
1. Is there any specific area...
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Ardh gyan visham bhavet
Ati sarvatra varjayet
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Last post by perfectionist1
Tue May 22, 2012 11:09 pm
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How are people using desi katta's able to get ammo
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gverma » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:31 am
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Hi
I may wrong here but my understanding is that assuming one is using a country made pistol which is made relitivly easily. People still need to use...
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NCC is NOT partying and wasting your time. NCC, as its motto, Unity and Discipline, teaches cadets very important lessons of life. It gives you a...
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Last post by rraju2805
Tue May 22, 2012 6:23 am
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Applying for NOC and TL..
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SYED833 » Sat May 19, 2012 11:36 am
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Please do tell,What is the process for applying a NOC before taking delivery of new firearm from factory?
Are there any specific forms that i need to...
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Visit your District Magistrate(DM) office, contact arms section, arms clerk will provide a copy of NOC. Fill it up and apply to DM office for NOC....
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Last post by bandukbhandar
Sat May 19, 2012 6:15 pm
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when buying ammo ? can the dealers...
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nagarifle » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:34 pm
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it would appear that in some city/states the dealers do not sell ammo to licence holder from some states. ie:
let say licence holders from N/E have...
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I apologize for missing the sarcasm
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Last post by xl_target
Thu May 17, 2012 11:43 am
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CCI Ammunition
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oscar07 » Tue May 08, 2012 4:16 pm
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Dear Sirs
I was just wondering what the deal with CCI ammunition in India is? Is there a problem with this brand, is it prohibited? Why would...
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My best guess is that someone probably went through a book somewhere and looked up a list of cartridges, crossed off those used by government...
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Last post by mundaire
Fri May 11, 2012 8:50 am
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RTI regarding knife laws
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Skyman » Fri May 04, 2012 8:54 pm
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Hello,
I did an rti to the karnataka home ministry regarding any restrictions under the arms acts as goodboy mentor advised, and they said they were...
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er-thats what i started.Can this thread be deleted? I was looking for people aware of central restrictions to answer,sorry if this is a repeat.
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Last post by Skyman
Sun May 06, 2012 5:41 pm
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Can Purchase Period in Arms License Extended above one year.
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kushalchaudhary » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:51 pm
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I hold an arms license on which a pistol and a DBBL gun is entered. I got a Rifle entered last year and purchase period given for one year expired on...
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Thanks everybody, Afterall I convinced the DM with all of yours kind guidance and the PP for Rifle NPB has been extended by the DM. Thanks a lot.
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Last post by kushalchaudhary
Fri May 04, 2012 11:16 am
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Laserlyte
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varunik » Thu May 03, 2012 2:32 am
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Just came across a website
www.laserlyte.com
Will one need license for such guns also??
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no its a toy,
regards
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Last post by dr.jayakumar
Thu May 03, 2012 8:38 am
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Are 9mm Air rifles legal in India ?
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sudesh » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:20 am
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Hello Everybody!!!!!!!!!
Are 9mm Air rifles legal in India :?:
Cheers!!!
:cheers:
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Even if somebody gets one, where will he gets pellets?
Pellets for a 9mm? Doubt if anyone would be able to use the regular diablo style pellets in...
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Last post by mundaire
Wed May 02, 2012 1:15 pm
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Club Import License
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varunik » Tue May 01, 2012 6:43 pm
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After a club gets NOC, and is registered with the State RA, does it need to apply for Import License seperately to import equipments?
Or they can...
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Please read this
Thanks, but theres more I ask for..
I mean equipments, like pellet traps, scoring equipments, etc
accessories other than...
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Last post by dr.jayakumar
Wed May 02, 2012 8:36 am
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Last post by gverma
Tue May 01, 2012 5:23 pm
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what is the punishment?
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dr.jayakumar » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:35 am
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friends,
what will be the punishment for carrying a firearm beyond the area of validity.?
regards
dr.jk
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Arrest.......FIR ........confiscation of firearm......bail from court.........if rejected appeal to the HC....if rejected appeal to the SC.....you...
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Last post by winnie_the_pooh
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